Re: MD Re: MOQ:What is a person.

From: Patrick van den Berg (cirandar@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Oct 08 2003 - 12:59:51 BST

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    Hi David H,

    > To me apprehend does not imply 'communication' as it is not a two-way
    > street.
    >
    > When DQ is really
    > > primary, we are not the static patterns that 'respond' to DQ (that
    > > leaves DQ out of who we really are)
    >
    > Respond also implies that 'communication' is taking place which to me
    > isn't
    > correct.
    >

    > Our identity does not 'contain' DQ our 'identity' is our patterns
    > which are
    > capable of apprehending Dynamic Quality.

    My dictionary gives these words under 'apprehend': comprehend,
    understand, get, grasp, make out, perceive, take in.
    So a person is a set of patterns that can 'take in', 'grasp' etc.
    dynamic quality. Well, okay, I can agree with this definition, but then
    I want to make a distinction between 'person' or 'self' and 'higher
    self'. A person is a self, an individual, a personality with certain
    characteristics, or static quality-patterns. Our higher self has at its
    root both static and dynamic quality. The self is limited to its own
    static patterns, and can only apprehend DQ as something that is
    not-self. By using a concept as 'higher self', you can say that our real
    identity, or who or what we really are, is beyond a self that can
    apprehend or 'take in' DQ, which in this definition is not-self (to me).
    But 'higher self' might include both static and dynamic quality. If DQ
    (with sqs) is the ground of reality (you might say), than the word
    'self' in 'higher self' acknowledges that the ground of reality is the
    ground of our being (and is not external to this).

    Can you agree with these definitions?
     
    Greetings, Patrick.

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