RE: MD Self-consciousness

From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Thu Nov 06 2003 - 15:49:37 GMT

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    Hi David

    David:
    Seems important to realise that quantum probabilities associated with
    quantum fields is not an aspect of SQ. The absence of pattern &
    repetition is surely an aspect of DQ.

    Paul:
    There is some discussion about this in Lila's Child; your particular
    point is made by Bo on page 4...

    "The quantum level below the static inorganic level displays no
    patterns, is principally uncertain, and as such, is Dynamic."

    To which Pirsig's response was...

    "The quantum level displays precise mathematical patterns, and as such
    has to be primarily static." [Lila's Child p.32]

    On whether or not quantum reality should be considered as a level below
    the inorganic level, Pirsig states "I've never had strong objections to
    this. My reason for not doing so was that the quantum level is
    inorganic, and the addition of another level adds complexity to an
    already difficult book without strengthening the basic thesis." [Lila's
    Child p.32]

    David:
    I see the move from energy to structure and materiality as a withdrawal
    of DQ until you get SQ type material bondage.

    Paul:
    I'm no expert on quantum mechanics, but (my understanding of) what
    Pirsig is referring to as Dynamic Quality is nothing that physicists are
    able to model mathematically, including energy.

    Paul

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