From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Mon Nov 17 2003 - 16:02:55 GMT
Matt: Rorty said in a reply to Christopher Norris that the only people who
really get into Heidegger and Derrida are people who were taken by
philosophy earlier in their lives, people who came down with what Heidegger,
Derrida, and Wittgenstein would diagnose as the Platonic disease.
DM: Often true, however for myself, I started with an interest in science
but found it far from satisfying all my
knowledge needs, and ended up all the way to Heidegger. Now, the link here
is the underlying metaphysics in
science that go all the way back to the Greeks/Plato. Heidegger, Nietzsche,
Derrida and Pirsig know this.
My greatest social/moral concern is that most people are either in the
pre-science religion camp or the post-science
nihilist camp as far as their overall outlook is concerned. My interest is,
in the light of what modern life and science
have done to religion, what is next? I think that many people think we have
science and that is it, nothing else to think about.
But science provides practical knowledge, it does not give us projects to do
or tell us what we live our lives for. What Nietzsche feared is that after
the death of god our values would regress to simply animal-biological needs
and social conformity, and we might add some entertainment to cover over the
horrors of life. And here we are, the biggest challenge most people take on
is to place themselves as highly as possible in the spread of social
inequality that we allow to thrive. Mankind is losing its dignity and
perhaps its point. I feel that I less and less often meet anyone who is in
anyway interesting.
Nietzsche might suggest that mankind is splitting in two, and perhaps the
politico-techno-media-aristocracy is getting ready to get rid of the rest of
us, we are becoming less and less required for production, this is suggested
by Houllebecq in his book Atomised, although it could go the other way, it
looks like we are finding it harder to sustain basic security in the
conditions of inequality. Dark times, but perhaps it will give us some
enthusiasm for the light when it arrives.
regards
David M
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