Re: MD what is life?

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Mon Nov 17 2003 - 15:07:12 GMT

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    Hi

    The earth is an interesting one. Not what we would usually
    think of as an organism. Life has done a good job at making
    the earth inhabitable. And the stability of the environment for
    maintaining life is impressive. It is also a very complex total system
    interacting with the space environment. Where purposeful activity
    is involved in this is hard to say, I would not dismis it on metaphysical
    grounds as per SOM too quickly. It needs investigating. What do you think?

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Nathan Pila" <pila@sympatico.ca>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:03 PM
    Subject: Re: MD what is life?

    > David,
    >
    > Using what you wrote, would you say that the earth is alive as a organism?
    > And what about a liver cell? Is it alive?
    >
    > Regards, Nathan
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "David MOREY" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:37 AM
    > Subject: Re: MD what is life?
    >
    >
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > Seems easy to me, life fills all the levels of complexity
    > > after those that create the most determinate level of matter.
    > > Life exhibits a level of free activity above that which is only
    > > concerned with the contingent interaction of elements.
    > > Life makes a use of its environment. There is also a use
    > > from energy to particles to atoms to molecules but we
    > > do not call this life because the movement is away from free
    > > movement towards heavy, stationary, gravity loving, and determined
    > > elements, the most static patterns that exist.
    > >
    > > regards
    > > David M
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Magnus Berg" <McMagnus@home.se>
    > > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:18 AM
    > > Subject: re: MD what is life?
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi Nathan
    > > >
    > > > I mostly lurk nowadays but if you are interested in my take on life,
    > feel
    > > free to read "A classicist's road to the Metaphysics of Quality" in the
    > MoQ
    > > forum:
    > > >
    > > > http://www.moq.org/forum/magnus/magnus.html
    > > >
    > > > Magnus
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Nathan Pila" <pila@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    > > > __________
    > > > >Hi there Steve,
    > > > >
    > > > >Well, I would assert that the study of "life" is worthwhile even if
    it
    > is
    > > an
    > > > >illusion. Right now, a definition that is accepted by everyone has
    yet
    > to
    > > be
    > > > >formulated. How can one tell if some material is "alive". What
    > properties
    > > > >would such material exhibit?
    > > > >
    > > > >How would you, (Steve)/ (or anyone else) /define 'life'? I am aware
    > that
    > > I
    > > > >am not being fair here in that this question is easy to state and
    > > terribly
    > > > >difficult to answer. But if you have the time, I would be interested
    in
    > > some
    > > > >of the properties that you think 'life' has. I have some views on the
    > > > >subject based on some stuff I've read. But I would like to hear what
    > you
    > > > >write first.
    > > > >
    > > > >Regards, Nathan
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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