From: Scott R (jse885@spinn.net)
Date: Sun Dec 07 2003 - 17:26:10 GMT
Mark,
I think you need to explore the writings of modern non-fundamentalist Christian theologians and mystics. You will find that there are enquiring Christians as well as a majority of static ones, the same as with Buddhists.
- Scott
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From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: MD Sit on my faith.
Dear Joe, Jim, David M and forum,
The question has been raised, 'Is there an impassable gulf between Buddhism and Christianity'?
Buddhists are radical renounces - they adhere to reason rather than faith.
Christians adhere to faith.
It seems to me that Christian enquiry is self limiting - at the end of the day, Individuals are the herd of God.
Buddhist enquiry is free to search for release from static conditioning, and find exceptional coherence between patterns and DQ; at this exceptional point, there is no self as such.
We may wish to regard Christianity thought being more static than Buddhist thought, and it is that very static nature of Christian thinking which will not allow it to accept the MoQ.
Then why does a Christian enquire? And when a Christian enquires, does he/she flavour 'rationality' to his/her own preconditioned world view?
I would answer that a Christian must enquire, because it is the nature of a coherent Intelligence to evolve towards ever greater coherence and beauty. The MoQ indicates this to be so.
To the second point, i would answer that reason is an intellectual aesthetic sense, and as such is a creative artistic process. As we may agree, art can be placed subservient to almost any static patterning; but in doing so, the Christian prostitutes art. The Christian will therefore prostitute the MoQ into the service of static containment - at complete variance with DQ.
The liturgical music of Pallestrina is some of the most powerful and beautiful music i have ever heard, and i feel it was written in response to DQ, as expressed through the mediating static patterning of the Christian faith. So, Christianity is not so limiting after all in the field of art? Liturgical music is a testament to the Dynamic nature of being alive and responsive to beauty. And if reason is given its free expression, it too will burst out of the confining nature of static Christian thought. You cannot stop it, because Christian thought was created by Quality in the first place, and it can be swept aside in the fullness of time.
All the best,
Mark
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