Re: MD Sit on my faith.

From: Scott R (jse885@spinn.net)
Date: Mon Dec 08 2003 - 03:01:55 GMT

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    Mark,

    You say:
    "Christians believe in God do they not?
    Buddhists do not believe in God do they?"

    Eckhart said: "I pray to God to rid me of God".
    Then there is the whole tradition of negative theology, the death-of-God theologians, or Don Cupitt's book "After God".
    Then there are Buddhists who do nothing but chant "Namu Amida Butsu", or spin prayer wheels, etc. etc.

    Your characterization above is overly simplistic.

    - Scott

    P.S. I find it ironic that you think better of Buddhism than Christianity because a "Buddhist may be more open to the MoQ", but then flame those who disagree with you, as you did with Bo and as you are now doing with Matt. I would think, given the MOQ, that you would have more respect for intellectual differences, and not characterize them as conspiracies or psychological failings.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
      To: moq_discuss@moq.org
      Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:13 PM
      Subject: Re: MD Sit on my faith.

      Mark,

      I think you need to explore the writings of modern non-fundamentalist Christian theologians and mystics. You will find that there are enquiring Christians as well as a majority of static ones, the same as with Buddhists.

      - Scott

      Hello Scott,
      Christians believe in God do they not?
      Buddhists do not believe in God do they?

      I conclude that a Buddhist is more free to explore the consequences of their enquiry. The example i have given is that a Buddhist may be more open to the MoQ - a Christian cannot live with the consequences of what the MoQ says and will therefore 'flavour' their rational enquiry in order to align the MoQ with faith.

      It is a matter of static conditioning - and Buddhists feel such conditioning, or samsara, is a block to achieving moksa, or liberation. For the Christian, static conditioning is a prerequisite of being a Christian - you cannot be a Christian without believing in God.

      I am sure you will correct me if have gone astray?

      All the best,
      Mark

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