Re: MD Sit on my faith.

From: khoo hock aun (hockaun@pc.jaring.my)
Date: Tue Feb 10 2004 - 11:02:03 GMT

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    Steve wrote:
    > Mark, did you know that he Dalai Lama considers homosexuality to be
    immoral?
    > He feels the same way about standing behind a pint.
    >
    > Every religion has it's dogma as does every culture. Buddhism appears
    > uniquely willing to look at it's dogma ( at least from where I stand), but
    > it's still there. I think that Westerner's only get the best of Buddhism
    > (in other words, its most intellectual version is what gets exported)
    since
    > they get it from books rather than through their upbringing. I often wish
    I
    > had been born into a Buddhist family instead of a Christian one since I
    find
    > Buddhism much more intellectually appealing, but I wonder if I would have
    > bristled at its dogma, too.

    Dear Steve

    I do find it interesting to note that you wish were born into a Buddhist
    family instead of a Christian one; given that karmically, we find ourselves
    in homes that are by extension the result of our trajectory across the
    planes of existence.

    As discussed elsewhere on this thread, there are no fixed categories of
    christians or buddhists; there are intellectual and social varieties of each
    and you would be fortunate to end up in a buddhist family with parents
    inclined to Buddhist philosophy and practice. Or vice versa, your ignorant
    parents would be so lucky to have you as a child, so perceptive and aware of
    the universe as it is, that you could be the next dalai lama !

    It is not an article of faith to have to believe in buddhist cosmology. You
    may doubt any part of its worldviews as you wish and take whatever that
    works for you. Take the 31 planes of existence for instance. In the one
    plane mankind exists on, where our mind and physical body appears in a
    combination that enables transformation into nirvana to take place. As for
    the 30 other planes, mind and matter combine in various permutations
    yielding existences ordinarily interpreted as heaven or hell states.

    Geomantically, your birth date and place are but your worm-hole entry
    co-ordinates into this plane's space-time continuum. Your death date and
    place your worm-hole point of departure and entry co-ordinates to the next
    plane of existence. Every entry and every departure has a karmic trajectory
    fueled each action that you take at each point in time. Your life's
    circumstances has been pre-determined by your past actions and your next
    stop will be determined by what you do today.

    In a nutshell, this is the most appealing explanation of the universe
    offered me and the absolute moral criteria for behaviour for all beings on
    all 31 planes of existence, whether they be humans, gods or demons is the
    karmic value of their actions. Insist on your individuality as an
    intellectual or sensual entity and you become transformed from one self into
    another lifetime after lifetime. Recognise your individuality for what it
    is - a mere microcosmic aggregation of the whole subconsciously propelled to
    perpetuate itself - and we achieve metaphysical insight. When we stop doing
    or become aware of what we are doing that is reflex, we see our "selves"
    struggling to catch up with the rest of the universe - this we do when are
    mindful when we meditate.

    I know of no dogma in buddhism that is forced upon us. Even if there were I
    would be free to reject it. An ordinary layperson is recommended 5 precepts
    to enhance karmic virtue. A novice monk ten precepts. A fully ordained monk
    in the theravada tradition 227. These are dogmas of practice - agreed upon
    after the Buddha's own practice and centuries of experience an the objective
    is to extinguish all karmic momentum, even within this lifetime. If it is
    your time and the conditions have been attained, you could be a walking
    living arahant on this human plane - as there are a number around us.

    While the same practices with minor modifications, being total vegetarians
    being one, pervades the mahayana tradition, the emphasis is on navigating
    the bardos. The moment of death is an especially important one - your
    departure from this plane as your body, including the mind, is dismantled.
    In the bardo in between your dying and your next becoming, if you become
    aware of where you are and decide not to born again, that is where you will
    remain metaphysic forever. All effort in the mahayana tradition is focussed
    on achieving this frame of mind at the moment of death, failing which the
    next best thing is to choose wisely, if you can, your next birth in the
    bardo of becoming.

    And if what I have just said is dogma, forced upon me, I will trash it !

    Best regards
    Khoo Hock Aun

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