MD: MOQ Where's the matter gone?

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Jan 08 2004 - 18:35:01 GMT

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    Hi All

    Here's a post from the Arthur M Young
    discussion group that I thought might be of interest.
    It seems to indicate how free energy of atoms
    is linked to both space and uncertainty, & that
    matter is linked to the constraint of energy in space.
    Perhaps telling usa something about the DQ/SQ relationship.

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Joseph Mann
    To: arthur@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:19 PM
    Subject: [arthur] Rubidium atom and Euler constant

     
    Jerry et all,

    This response must confine itself to the following "snippet" that was
    part of your post dated December 27, 2003..

      Science > Chemistry > Elements > Rubidium

      

    The Nobel Prize was awarded to a very, very remarkable experiment
    confirming something that Einstein and the Indian physicist Bose
    predicted back in the 1920s.

    And today's scientists did was to take atoms - rubidium atoms -
    and slow them down using sophisticated laser techniques.

    Simply by slowing the atom downs, the quantum mechanical nature of
    the atom began to become more and more evident, because the wave
    function of the atom began to spread.

    These wave functions are ordinarily so small that the atoms appear
    effectively to be particulate in nature. But when the particles
    are slowed down - as the momentum goes toward zero - the wave function
    goes toward infinity. Practically speaking, the wave function reaches a
    few millimeters in size, which is large for an atom. And when that
    happens, you begin to see that these are not atoms at all. These are just
    waves of some purely abstract "field of rubidiumness."

    That's all an atom is. A rubidium atom is just a wave in an
    abstract ocean of existence - in this case, a "field of rubidiumness."

    So when these rubidium wave functions become so big, you start to
    see these so-called particles bending around corners and behaving like
    waves - refracting, defracting, interfering with each other.

    And when the waves get so big that they start to overlap one
    another, then something even more remarkable happens. The wave functions
    lose their individual identities totally, and the whole assemblage of
    atoms becomes one giant wave of intelligence. One giant wave of flowing
    intelligence. One wave, one macroscopic wave of this absolutely
    abstract field of rubidiumness. So a rubidium atom is no more an elementary
    particle than I am, or than you are.

    These are not elementary particles. These are big, fat atoms with
    hundreds of particles in them. And what this shows is that even
    big systems, even complicated systems like you and me - we slow down
    when we are systematically de-excited. And when we slow down, we lose that
    individual existence and we all become what we are anyway - waves
    of a common field, a universal field of intelligence.

      [end snippet]

        

    .

    Take the expression above, "a vast ocean of existence," it reminds me of
    Arthur Young's view of light as "First Cause:"

    The heart of the matter is, does anything precede first cause or
    existence, or your view of existence as mathematical?

    For instance is there an "unmoved mover?" Does darkness precede light,
    or is light possible without darkness?

    Someone once said that math was not possible without infinity: so my
    answer is yes. Light may be first cause, it may be action, and it seems
    likely that the speed and energy of light are subject to the limitation
    of the law of "no infinite regress:"

    It is the constancy of the speed of light; inseparable from the infinity
    of frequencies, and the compounding of frequencies that give us the sea
    we live in. But that still leaves darkness; it is indication if not
    proof that there is a real, if impersonal "unmoved mover;" Darkness, as
    the limit of what can be known: Infinity, as that which makes existence
    possible without itself Being.

    It is become harder for intelligent beings to dismiss metaphysics;
    chance, freedom and plurality are not beyond the reaches of science or
    math.

    Joe

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