From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Jan 25 2004 - 01:09:47 GMT
Jordi, Anthony, Paul and y'all:
Pirsig in ZMM chapter 20
"Phaedrus remembered Hegel had been regarded as a bridge between Western and
Oriental philosophy. The Vedanta of the Hindus, the Way of the Taoists, even
the Buddha had been described as an absolute monism similar to Hegel's
philosophy. Phaedrus doubted at the time, however, whether mystical Ones and
metaphysical monisms were introconvertable since mystical Ones follow no
rules and metaphysical monisms do. His Quality was a metaphysical entity,
not a mystic one. Or was it? What was the difference?"
dmb says:
Now that Jordi's question has been answered, it might be interesting to
discuss the interconvertability of mysticism and metaphysics in a more
thorough way. I was thinking, for example, that the question is somewhat
clarified in Lila. In the MOQ we can say that the mystical One is Dynamic,
while metaphysical monisms are static intellectual descriptions of the
Dynamic - or something like that. That's the difference.
Pirsig in Lila chapter 30:
"The MOQ associates religious mysticism with Dynamic Quality but it would
certainly be a mistake to think that the MOQ endorses the static beliefs of
any particular religious sect. Phaedrus thought sectarian religion was a
static social fallout of DQ and that while some sects had fallen less than
others, none of them told the whole truth."
"He thought about how once this integration occurs and DQ is identified with
religious mysticism it produces an avalanche of information as to what
Dynamic Quality is. A lot of this relgious mysticism is just low-grade
"yelping about God" of course, but if you search for the sources of it and
don't take the yelps too literally a lot of interesting things turn up."
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