Re: MD SOLAQI as pile of garbage?

From: Matt poot (mattpoot@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jan 29 2004 - 00:43:28 GMT

  • Next message: Mati Palm-Leis: "MD SOLAQI, What's creativity got to do with it?"

    "there is no soul or static entity which the term, 'I' reefers
    >to.

    I just thought, that "I think, therefor I am" is perhaps egotistical. I
    would go so far as to say that it is that even though it has truth, in what
    dimension I dont know, but there is something nagging at the back of my mind
    that makes me dislike this statement. When I put my finger on it, I will
    definitely tell.

    As to enlightening us to the intended meaning of this brief verse, it would
    be interesting to compare with our interpretations of its meanings.
    However, if Mati keeps it to ourselves, thats fine..Itll make me think more
    about it.

    And , before I can do that , I should probably know what 'SOLAQI" stands
    for. (sorry I'm new)

    >From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >Subject: Re: MD SOLAQI as pile of garbage?
    >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:32:01 EST
    >
    >
    >Mati:
    >You have the gift of creative mocking, it continues to flow,
    >
    >Perhap it is a mirror into you soul.
    >
    >Mark 28-01-04: 'You have the gift of creative mocking' - So did the Buddha.
    >The Buddha's teaching was intended to show that believing one had a soul
    >was
    >the root of all suffering. In a process metaphysics like the MoQ, (and the
    >Buddha's teaching), there is no soul or static entity which the term, 'I'
    >reefers
    >to.
    >The MoQ describes patterns of value in an evolving relationship with DQ.
    >Creativity may be stated to be a relationship between the totality of a
    >static
    >repertoire and DQ. That is a coherent explanation based on MoQ texts, and
    >is
    >described well by yourself as a, flow' of creativity. This is a real gift
    >of
    >understanding.
    >If you feel you have been given a gift of understanding, please shine your
    >understanding light and illuminate experiences you have had to help teach
    >us
    >something? Anything? Apply your understanding and explain something?
    >Anything?
    >Please? I have been asking, 'The supreme being' who you feel gave you your
    >gift
    >to do the same for years, and without a single answer.
    >
    >
    >
    >You courted me once and I did resist
    >
    >I prefer intelligence with a SOLAQI twist.
    >
    >Mark 28-01-04: Your preferences are patterns of value. Value comes before a
    >conceptual repertoire. SoM is one pattern among a number of patterns - it
    >has
    >been created by a Dynamic process and is part of a static conceptual
    >repertoire. Therefore, your static preferences cannot be that which created
    >them.
    >The MoQ explains Intellect as a repertoire of static patterns of value in
    >an
    >evolving relationship with DQ. Therefore, we have two static descriptions
    >of
    >the intellect - One is the totality of our static repertoire (which cannot
    >be
    >listed or viewed in one instant as it is too sophisticated) and the other
    >is
    >the total repertoire in a relationship with DQ, (which points to a process
    >and
    >therefore also cannot be captured in any static description).
    >When you say you prefer a description of the intellect, the description you
    >prefer is a completely static one bounded by a severe conceptual wall. When
    >i
    >say i prefer a description of the intellect, my description cannot be
    >defined
    >or bounded other than indicating or pointing to DQ. In other words, you
    >have no
    >vocabulary for showing that intellect is a staggeringly creative, Dynamic,
    >beautiful and ethical process. I, on the other hand, may indicate concrete
    >day-to-day examples of experiences people may discover for themselves and
    >explain
    >how the MoQ can help them examine their experiences within a value centred
    >world view.
    >
    >
    >
    >Perhaps it is your jealousy, for noted mention,
    >
    >Or perhaps it is just SQ-SQ tension.
    >
    >Mati
    >
    >Mark 28-01-04: As a teacher Mati, i should like to think you wish to
    >inspire
    >your pupils with wonder and delight in the beauty and joy of discovery. I
    >know
    >if my children were under your care and tutelage, i should wish for you to
    >do
    >this with them - I should wish for this to be the aim of education for all
    >children.
    >However, with poetry like yours as an example, i would rather teach my kids
    >at home, where i know they will be safe from low Quality influences.

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