Re: MD Awareness and Quality

From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Sat Jan 31 2004 - 13:14:36 GMT

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    In a message dated 1/30/04 7:42:39 PM GMT Standard Time,
    peterson.steve@verizon.net writes:

    > Hi All,
    >
    > Questions:
    >
    > How is ZAMM's Quality as pre-intellectual awareness related to Lila's
    > Dynamic Quality leaving static patterns in its wake?
    >
    > Are they the same? Is Pirsig using the term "intellectual" in the same
    > sense as he does when he discusses intellectual patterns?
    >
    > Perhaps "unpatterned awareness" would make a good substitute for
    > "pre-intellectual awareness," otherwise it would seem that all patterns are
    > intellectual by equating dynamic/static with pre-intellectual/intellectual.
    > What do you think?
    >
    > Recently I said, "To infer patterns of any kind, one must rise to the
    > intellectual level since inferences are intellectual constructs." Platt
    > agreed, DM disagreed. I think the disagreement concerned an implication
    > that all patterns are intellectual. My use of "inference" implies symbolic
    > representation of patterns so I stand by my original statement.
    >
    > I've been working with the definition of "pattern" as "perceptual structure"
    > where structure could refer to inorganic, biological, social, or
    > intellectual structure.
    >
    > Does anyone have a better definition of "pattern"? One problem I see with
    > "perceptual structure" as an MOQ definition is that it implies an S/O
    > relationship of a perceiver and that which is perceived. Is pattern an
    > inherently S/O term?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >

    Hi Steve,
    The answer to your questions is found in The edge of chaos.
    All the best,
    Mark

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