From: ljory@mts.net
Date: Tue Feb 24 2004 - 14:54:57 GMT
> From: "Charles Vanderford" <proskuneo@fastermail.com>
> Charles: If by 'Q-force' you mean Quality itself, my answer is that I don't
> know what Quality is, in essense. I mean 'goodness' or 'betterness'
> separated from whatever one would attach them to. Although Pirsig does
> not directly say this, to my understanding he implies degeneracy occurs
> when there is a social movement by patterns of value other than Dynamic
> Quality itself. Although.. that doesn't quite sound right either. Even
> though, according to Pirsig, the Hippie movement eventually failed because
> of its confusion of DQ and biological quality, I highly doubt it started out
> that way. This is a source of confusion for me. It's the essense of my
> original question about DQ and degeneracy... How does one fall off the
> Dynamic wave and end up being driven by other patterns of value, as the
> Hippies were? I can feel there's answer to this question, but it's still just
> out my reach.
Hi Charles. The degeneracy of the Hippie movement is due to q-Biology
attempting to overcome q-Society and q-Intellect. Any time a lower level
dominates a higher level it can be called degeneracy. The problem with the
Hippies is they confused q-Biology with DQ. This confusion is easy to see,
since q-Biology is so apparent where DQ is damned evasive.
Hope that clarifies.
--
Leland Jory :^{)>
Cafeteria Spiritualist and Philosopher
"It is a puzzling thing. The truth knocks on the door and you say, 'Go
away, I'm looking for the truth.' and so it goes away. Puzzling." -
Robert Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
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