From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Feb 24 2004 - 19:45:28 GMT
Steve
Good spot.
Thanks for that, it was that part
of the book that I had in mind.
regards
David M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Peterson" <peterson.steve@verizon.net>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: MD Objectivity, Truth, MOQ and Skyscrapers
> >> DM said:
>
> >> Now I did not say, I believe, that in the MOQ
> >> the subject simply becomes part of SQ. Rather, this is what I am
> >> saying: Quality is a whole. It exists prior to SOM as much as it
> >> exists prior to MOQ's SQ/DQ divide -with a unifying Q in each term of
> >> course. This is my ontological starting point.
>
> Bo replied:
> > A super-DQ that divides into DQ/SQ is dubious. It compares to a
> > GOD who is prior to the usual God. No I think it more reasonable
> > to regard the MOQ a VALUE reality that constitutes the static
> > system.
> >
>
> Pirsig says:
> "There already is a metaphysics of quality. A subject-object
> metaphysics is in fact a metaphysics in which the first division of
> Quality-the first slice of undivided experience-is into subjects and
> objects. Once you have made that slice, all of human experience is
> supposed to fit into one of these two boxes. The trouble is, it
> doesn't. What he had seen is that there is a metaphysical box that sits
> above these two boxes, Quality itself. And once he'd seen this he also
> saw a huge number of ways in which Quality can be divided. Subjects and
> objects are just one of the ways. The question was, which way was
> best?"
>
> According to Pirsig, Quality is undivided experience and DQ/sq is just
> one of many ways to divide Quality. David M is correctly interpreting
> Pirsig's MOQ. Bo, once again your position seems opposed to Pirsig's.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
>
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