Re: MD MOQ and can David M touch the sun?

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Feb 26 2004 - 20:31:57 GMT

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    Platt

    Clearly related in some way, what we usually mean by
    mind clearly refers both to dynamic/active/perceiving aspects
    and also the recogntion of patterns, and also patterned activity.
    Less between the brain and the data than the brain and the object of
    perception.
    But both are theoretical constructs. The reality is experience and you
    cannot
    be anything other than in the experience. Heidegger uses the concept of a
    'clearing'
    rather than consciousness. This implies that experience is the creation of a
    'space'
    where experience occurs/events. In the clearing man and language and being
    gather
    together. The arena is then one of both static and dynamic experience.
    Heidegger
    also describes human being as Da-sein which means being-the-there, or just
    being-there.
    This seems to me ontologically fundamental and what we should not forget.
    Existence is a happening, something talikng place, and it consists of all
    that is
    gathered in its occurance: brain, mind, body, eyes, ears, photons, sound
    waves,
    the objects of experience, language, gravity, other laws of nature, puire
    accidental
    circumstance, etc, etc.

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
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    Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:38 PM
    Subject: Re: MD MOQ and can David M touch the sun?

    > David M,
    >
    > > Perhaps the mind is in the relationship,
    > > in the between.
    >
    > The mind is in between the brain and the data of experience? That makes
    > the mind some sort of free-floating entity if I understand you correctly,
    > neither a product of the brain nor contained in stable patterns of value.
    > Would you say then that "mind" is equivalent to Pirsig's Quality?
    >
    > Platt
    >
    >
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