From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Fri Feb 27 2004 - 18:08:42 GMT
Hi Matt
I would agree with the below. This recogntion
of the importance of dynamic reality is what
is the main common gound between Pirsig and Rorty.
regards
David M
----- Original Message -----
From: "MATTHEW PAUL KUNDERT" <mpkundert@students.wisc.edu>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: MD DQ and Degeneracy - Which is which?
> Charles,
>
> It has been my contention for some time that we can't tell the difference
between DQ and degeneracy in any definite way at the time of its occurence.
To try and be any more specific then "its [whatever "it" is] better" is to
define and put limits on DQ.
>
> The way the indeterminancy of Dynamic Quality plays out is that, when it
happens, you have a vague, though perhaps definite, feeling that this is
better than what was before. You cannot _justify_ it to yourself, let alone
anyone else, at that point because the entire point of DQ is that it breaks
with the past into a new direction. It is only as time passes, as the
static patterns follow in its wake, that you can justify your earliest sense
of "betterness." It is only after time has passed that you can gain some
measure of assurance that what you sensed as betterness was really better,
and not degenerate. This assurance is gained by the act of justifying it to
others (and/or yourself, depending on the thing you are justifying). If,
after the march of history, the betterness is found to be justified, then it
was DQ. If not, then not. As Pirsig says, the test of a static pattern is
whether it is better than those around it and the justificatory process is
the only way w
> e have of testing anything.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
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