From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sat Apr 17 2004 - 00:06:23 BST
David,
Whether Penrose specifically made this link or not, I cannot say, but you
should be aware that a large number of physicists and other disciplines that
are treat consciousness scientifically believe there is a physical
connection between consciousness and quantum physics. There are for example
biannual conferences at Tsucon, Arizona on The Quantum Mind and The Science
of Consciousness. The participants are serious (Nobel Prize winning)
scientists and the like.
Try
http://consciousness.arizona.edu/conference/tucson2004/
And
http://consciousness.arizona.edu/conference/o_quantummind.php
If you like those try Quantum Information, Quantum Genetics and Holochory
too. Several science writers who've seen the link between the eastern
"aesthetic continuum" (as opposed to SOMist perspective) and modern physics
post Heisenberg et al, seem to find compelling evidence that the "whole in
the part" aspects of Holochory (eg Holograms) are related to "interconnected
/ non-local / sub-consciousness". Obviously more people believe they're
cranks than believe them, but that's not unusual. Takes more than one
generation for people to recognise truth.
Pirsig's SODV paper was almost there too I believe, and the same institution
(in Belgium) continues to research this area.
Fascinating thoughts : 1
Coherent argument : 0
But you better believe it.
Ian Glendinning
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: MD Consciousness & DQ & collapse of the wave function
> Hi Jim
>
> Just wanted to say I enjoyed your post.
> I have heard that Penrose has associated the
> collapse of the wave function with consciousness.
> are you aware of this? I do think it is interesting to
> look at how consciousness could be defined as a state
> of openness (link to DQ) and therefore may have something
> to do with action/acting/events i.e. the movement from
> uncollapsed open-possibilityto collapsed-determined-events.
> Any thoughts.
>
> regards
> David M
>
>
> regards
> David M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: MD SQ-SQ coherence and the Biosphere.
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