RE: MD quality religion (Christianity)

From: storeyd (storeyd@bc.edu)
Date: Sun May 16 2004 - 21:06:35 BST

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    Platt,
    I don't follow your argument at all, in fact i don't even see one; nor is your
    senseless invective towards dmb helpful for any of our understandings, and
    that makes for, yes, low quality thinking. again, it seems like you're
    looking at this "rational/irrational" problem from the SOM perspective...and
    if you really go into what Pirsig's saying, then it's just another platypus
    that dissolves. and dmb is absolutely correct: jim jones is the approximate
    opposite of Jesus...what the status quo (note our colloquial phrase for SQ!)
    does is, since they are contrary, other, different, reduce both to the evil,
    the irrational, the immoral, etc., regardless of the content of their
    difference. and the former, jim jones, is irrational/pre-rational (that is,
    he violates a coherent social pattern of value organized around abstract
    rules/laws/symbols), but jesus is trans-rational, because he articulates a
    dynamic perspective that cannot be reduced to his moral/rational horizon (his
    SQ community), that is NOT contra-reason, but totally beyond it. in other
    words, jesus's universe makes room for rationality, jim jones's negates it
    altogether.
    Best,
    -Dave

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