From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun May 16 2004 - 23:32:28 BST
David S,
I'll ignore your ad hominem attack and simply ask you to let me know when you
find in any of Pirsig's writings 1) a reference to Jesus "articulating a
dynamic perspective," and 2) agreement with Jesus' moral advice such as "Love
your enemies.
As for your claim that Jesus makes room for rationality, I suggest you review
what his very reasonable followers did during the Inquisition.
Best,
Platt
> Platt,
> I don't follow your argument at all, in fact i don't even see one; nor is your
> senseless invective towards dmb helpful for any of our understandings, and
> that makes for, yes, low quality thinking. again, it seems like you're
> looking at this "rational/irrational" problem from the SOM perspective...and
> if you really go into what Pirsig's saying, then it's just another platypus
> that dissolves. and dmb is absolutely correct: jim jones is the approximate
> opposite of Jesus...what the status quo (note our colloquial phrase for SQ!)
> does is, since they are contrary, other, different, reduce both to the evil,
> the irrational, the immoral, etc., regardless of the content of their
> difference. and the former, jim jones, is irrational/pre-rational (that is,
> he violates a coherent social pattern of value organized around abstract
> rules/laws/symbols), but jesus is trans-rational, because he articulates a
> dynamic perspective that cannot be reduced to his moral/rational horizon (his
> SQ community), that is NOT contra-reason, but totally beyond it. in other
> words, jesus's universe makes room for rationality, jim jones's negates it
> altogether. Best, -Dave
>
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