Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sat May 29 2004 - 18:24:49 BST

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    Hi Platt, DavidM, et al,

    Well, it scares the pooh outta me, but I think Platt's statement
    below is right on.

    David, can you expand on your idea of DQ being more or less complex?

    On 29 May 2004 at 9:12, Platt Holden wrote:

    dm said:
    > I think the thing Platt needs to grasp is that DQ
    > can emerge in a more complex way at higher levels.

    ph:
    I fail to grasp your assertion because I can find no support for it
    in Pirsig's writings. In fact, the story of the Zuni and brujo
    contradicts what you say. DQ can emerge from a human response to it
    by anyone, anywhere, at anytime. It's one's openness to DQ that
    determines its emergence and influence. As Pirsig points out time and
    again, SOM intellect blocks access to DQ. In that metaphysics, DQ,
    the moral force, doesn't exist and so goes unrecognized. SOM
    dominates the current intellectual level. So for an intellectual to
    respond to DQ at that "higher level" is less rather than more likely.
    Mystics and artists are much better candidates for responding to DQ
    than "higher intellects." Finally, how does DQ become "more complex?"
    Can you give examples of simple DQ vs. complex DQ?

    msh

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