Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sun May 30 2004 - 12:04:00 BST

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    Hi Mark

    Also think how DQ is associated with freedom
    and how human beings allow for a more complex and free
    expression of DQ, in terms of control over their environment
    and knowledge. I see more complex DQ activity involved
    in the activity that occurs at higher levels of evolution,
    i.e. life in more complex expression of DQ than inorganic
    nature. DQ leaves SQ in its wake, that wake, those patterns
    of SQ are always developing, the latching is occuring in a more
    evolved/developed environment. I see the meaning of environment
    as being the continual laying down of SQ patterns by DQ.
    This just becomes a more complex range of patterns for DQ to
    act/operate in. Or agency just becomes more clearly excpressed.

    regards
    David M
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 6:24 PM
    Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

    > Hi Platt, DavidM, et al,
    >
    > Well, it scares the pooh outta me, but I think Platt's statement
    > below is right on.
    >
    > David, can you expand on your idea of DQ being more or less complex?
    >
    > On 29 May 2004 at 9:12, Platt Holden wrote:
    >
    > dm said:
    > > I think the thing Platt needs to grasp is that DQ
    > > can emerge in a more complex way at higher levels.
    >
    > ph:
    > I fail to grasp your assertion because I can find no support for it
    > in Pirsig's writings. In fact, the story of the Zuni and brujo
    > contradicts what you say. DQ can emerge from a human response to it
    > by anyone, anywhere, at anytime. It's one's openness to DQ that
    > determines its emergence and influence. As Pirsig points out time and
    > again, SOM intellect blocks access to DQ. In that metaphysics, DQ,
    > the moral force, doesn't exist and so goes unrecognized. SOM
    > dominates the current intellectual level. So for an intellectual to
    > respond to DQ at that "higher level" is less rather than more likely.
    > Mystics and artists are much better candidates for responding to DQ
    > than "higher intellects." Finally, how does DQ become "more complex?"
    > Can you give examples of simple DQ vs. complex DQ?
    >
    >
    > msh
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