From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jun 10 2004 - 18:53:30 BST
Hi Platt,
Thanks for the concise answer from Pirsig, you are good at finding the
relevant quotes. It is almost the answer I would have given also: the
reason some people like the record more than others do is because of their
history, of their experience, of the static patterns. But I fail to see why
DQ has to be added to the equation at all: liking it or not liking it is
totally explained by static patterns. How would one know if they are liking
it for its DQ or for their own static patterns? The reason there is some
uniformity but not complete conformity is because most of us share most
static patterns, but do not share all our static patterns. That's why most
Mexicans like Mexican music more than most Japanese do. If they find some
music they like in common, it isn't because it has (had?) DQ, it is because
it has static patterns that fit harmoniously with both cultures (and not
even necessirily the same ones - the Mexicans might like it for the beat,
and the Japanese for the melody, etc).
I am sure I can be surprised into liking music that is far out from my
normal taste, and seemingly not connected to any of my identified static
patterns, but I refuse to believe it is an unexplainable, non-definable
mystical deity called DQ that is attracting me to it. There is some reason
I like it, there is some pattern to it that fits harmoniously with patterns
in my experience, even if they are not patterns that I would have identified
in advance as being what I liked. Perhaps I just associate it with having
fun, maybe it is nice day and I see other people enjoying it, and think,
yeah, this is cool, I like it.
Johnny
>Hi Johnny,
>
> > Platt quoted Lila:
> > The first good, that made you want to buy the record, was Dynamic
>Quality.
> > Dynamic Quality comes as a sort of surprise. What the record did was
>weaken
> > for a moment your existing static patterns in such a way that the
>Dynamic
> > Quality all around you shone through. It was free, without static forms.
> >
> > But wouldn't that mean that EVERYONE hearing ANY record for the first
>time
> > would like it? Why would some people like it but not others? The
>Dynamic
> > Quality is the same, isn't it, and it is without static forms, isn't it?
>
>Pirsig answers:
>
>"The reason there is a difference between individual evaluations of
>quality is that although Dynamic Quality is a constant, these static
>patterns are different for everyone because each person has a different
>static pattern of life history. Both the Dynamic Quality and the static
>patterns influence his final judgment. That is why there is some
>uniformity among individual value judgments but not complete uniformity."
>(SODV)
>
>Platt
_________________________________________________________________
Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://youroffers.msn.com
MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
Mail Archives:
Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net
To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Thu Jun 10 2004 - 19:08:33 BST