RE: MD Statesman? David Buchanan's just "parroting" the usual lying slander!

From: Paul Vogel (nitzke@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 14 2004 - 16:15:53 BST

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    >From: David Buchanan <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: "'moq_discuss@moq.org'" <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    >Subject: RE: MD Statesman?
    >Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:19:09 -0600
    >
    >Hey MOQers:

    Hey David Buchanan, you are just "parroting" the usual lying slander!
    >
    >Did any of you check out the 'cosmotheism' site?

    Or check out the more "objective" Wikipediia article on it with a Google
    search?

    It is a racist, neo-nazi organization that calls william pierce "the
    greatest visionary of our time".

    No, it isn't any "racist" nor any "neo-nazi" organization, whatsoever.

    Cosmotheism is a Classical Pantheist religion that has always been slandered
    by "racist" Jewish-Zionist Supremacists and mostly because the late Dr.
    William L. Pierce had adopted this pantheist religion of Cosmotheism for
    himself, and making himself, indeed, "one of the greatest visionaries of
    our time".

    >you may recall that pierce is the author of the THE TURNER DIARYS, the book
    >that inspired Tim McViegh's terrorist attack in Oaklahoma City.

    What actually "inspired" Tim McViegh's terrorist attack on the APM Federal
    Building in Oklahoma City, was to exact "revenge" upon the ATF Agents housed
    there that had brutally murdered and that had so burned-up many innocent
    men, women, and children in Waco, Texas, under Janet Reno's orders. Tyranny
    breeds "Domestic Terrorism" just as vile political and social injustice in
    the Mid-East breeds "International Terrorism".

    I mention this to warn you and because Platt could probably use a friend.
    I'm sure his
    >views would be welcome there with open arms. (Yes, I'm having fun again.)

    Why would you need to "warn" anyone, except perhaps, only about your own
    lying slander and hypocrisy and bigotry against Classical Pantheism or
    Cosmotheism?

    Curious.

    Paul Vogel
    http://www.cosmotheism.net
    >
    >dmb
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Paul Vogel [mailto:nitzke@hotmail.com]
    >Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:17 PM
    >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >Cc: nitzke@hotmail.com
    >Subject: Re: MD Statesman?
    >
    >
    >Dear Johnny moral and Marsha,
    >
    >I too had seen Mindwalk, after Dan Glover had suggested it to me, and it
    >was
    >
    >quite excellent!
    >However, I have yet to read the book, "The Turning Point", on which it was
    >based.
    >
    >The four levels of Hierarchy within the MOQ reflects the natural
    >evolutionary movement
    >from the simplicity of the BIG BANG to the complexity of LIFE and
    >CONSCIOUSNESS
    >and HUMAN AWARENESS.
    >
    >A perfect merging of the TRUTH-SEEKING ideals of the physicist, poet, and
    >leader/prophet,
    >can be found within the religion/philosophy of COSMOTHEISM:
    >http://www.cosmotheism,
    >and which is based upon an ancient Classical Pantheism and which is also
    >Pan-Psychic and Teleological in outlook.
    >
    >We Humans and all of LIFE and all of the COSMOS are inter-connected and
    >inter-related
    >within a PROBABLE REALITY of our own Co-CREATION, and within the greater
    >UNITY
    >of the COSMOS as a WHOLE.
    >
    >The MOQ is a useful METAPHYSICAL and MORAL BASIS for the
    >religion/philosophy
    >of COSMOTHEISM, regardless of what some others may selfishly and reactively
    >and
    >subjectively feel about that fact.
    >
    >Best regards,
    >
    >Paul Vogel
    >http://www.cosmotheism.net
    >
    >PS-A slandered TRUE COSMOTHEIST that has recently returned here to set the
    >record straight.
    >
    >
    >
    > >From: "johnny moral" <johnnymoral@hotmail.com>
    > >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    > >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    > >Subject: Re: MD Statesman?
    > >Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:26:26 +0000
    > >
    > >Greetings, Marsha,
    > >
    > >>But there's a movie called Mindwalk that deeply moves me... The movie
    >is
    > >>a dialogue between a politician, a physicist, and a poet. It's based on
    > >>Fritjof Capra's book 'Turning Point'. It suggests we look at the
    > >>world/existence as being made of interconnected systems and patterns of
    > >>probability.
    > >
    > >That sounds right on to me, can you tell me more? About the movie, and
    > >also your thoughts on interconnected systems and patterns of probability.
    > >
    > >>I want to keep my mind open to both hierarctical and interconnectedness.
    > >
    > >Maybe it is heirarchical authority you don't like? Or the idea that a
    > >"higher" moral pattern is "more moral" than a "lower" one?
    > >
    > >>P.S. I just reread this email. The contradiction is that I start by
    > >>saying hierarchy is successful, and end by saying it's unsuccessful.
    >I'm
    > >>going to admit the contradiction, and let it stand.
    > >
    > >Bravo! I think there is room for contradictions, being a slave to
    > >presenting a consistent front is stifling. There are so many
    > >interconnected systems, and so many values. It would be very improbable,
    > >actually, for anything to be wholly successful or wholly unsuccessful.
    > >
    > >PS, Gaugin in Tahiti was kind of monotonous, huh? That's what I felt
    > >anyway. I liked his carvings though. Did you see the "junk art" exhibit
    > >downstairs, by Sue Webster and Tim Noble? I really liked that pile of
    >junk
    >
    > >that formed the shadow on the wall of the two men sitting down. And the
    > >cheesy shining dollar sign was impressive to me, too.
    > >
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