From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 15 2004 - 16:34:53 BST
Hi Mark and Platt,
Platt, was your beauty post in response to this thread? Did you find your
points on DQ and beauty to be in conflict with what I was writing about
patterns and harmony? I don't see any conflict. Let me know what
ramifications you see, what scared you about this thread that you felt you
had to post a new one on beauty.
>msh:
>But people can choose to expand their experiences and change their
>circumstances (learn, grow), and therefore come to find previously
>undetected harmonies. This is related to the example of experiencing
>DQ across cultural boundaries, in which you spoke of Japanese and
>American musical tastes, and upon which I commented in another
>thread.
I still say DQ has nothing to do with it, even across cultural boundaries.
if there is beauty there are patterns that are harmonizing, and we call that
DQ.
people's circumstances and experiences cause them to choose to expand their
experiences and change their circumstances, sure, and they will find new
patterns and some will seem beautiful and others won't, depending on how
well they harmonize and strengthen each other.
But no one can choose to find something beautful or not. Yes you can refuse
to look, or not notice strong harmonies because you are distracted by
insignificant disharmony. And you can, if you will, train yourself to find
beauty in things you hadn't seen before. But you can't choose any of those
reactions.
Johnny
>jm:
>I think Beauty also reinforces existing patterns... In other words,
>saying this is beautiful is saying that there is lots of harmony here
>and both this pattern and my other patterns are reinforced and
>strengthed by this pattern.
>
>msh:
>And I can say to you: "Look, this is beautiful!" You might not see
>it if you look; you certainly won't see it, if you refuse to look.
>
>
>Best,
>msh
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