Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Evolution of Society.

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sat Jun 19 2004 - 17:04:03 BST

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    Hi Wim,

    I just want to make sure I didn't miss your response to me re my
    question about health care in your ideal social system. I don't find
    a response in the archives, so let me post it again:

    Hi Wim,
    I see. So, in your view, a health-care system that is supported by
    voluntary contributions is morally superior to one that is funded by
    non-voluntary tax contributions. What if it can be demonstrated that
    the voluntary system is inferior in providing adequate health care to
    all citizens? That is, what if we apply your philosophical idea to
    the real world?

    And does your voluntary/forced distinction regarding behavior apply
    across the board? That is, not just to ways of funding health care?

    Thanks,
    Mark

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    On 14 Jun 2004 at 8:17, Wim Nusselder wrote:
    Dear Mark H.,
    You wrote 10 Jun 2004 10:03:53 -0700:
    'Wim objects to my list of possibly immoral institutions because he
    thinks he needs to compare them to something else, in order to
    proceed. I say fine. Compare systems that provide health care for
    profit with those that fund it for everyone from a community base.
    Which of the two is of higher social morality, using DQ as its
    measure?'
    In my 'economics of want and greed' 
    (www.antenna.nl/wim.nusselder/schrijfsels/economics.htm or via
    www.moq.org) you can find a hierarchy of social patterns of value (4
    types of society/economy). 'Health care for profit' belongs to the 
    3rd type of society. To the extent that 'health care funded from a
    community base' refers to state-enforced funding, it belongs to the
    2nd type of society and is less (socially) moral. To the extent that
    this 'community' that funds it is a voluntary association (in which
    the contribution to health care funding is experienced as a kind of
    membership fee), it belongs to the 4th type and is more (socially)
    moral.
    With friendly greetings,
    Wim
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