Re: MD gravy & meat

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sun Jun 20 2004 - 20:59:03 BST

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    Hi Wim, and all,

    Just to clarify, I did not interpret Wim's post to dmb as a request
    to stop contributing to the list entirely, but as a request to
    contribute only ideas or comments that are not disgusting to Wim.

    My point is that I find some comments by one or two members not only
    disgusting, but vile. I do not, however, think it is within my
    rights to ask them not to post such comments. My legitimate choices
    are to either ignore such comments, or refute them. If people are
    free to say only things I like to hear, then they have no freedom of
    speech at all.

    Thanks,
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

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    On 20 Jun 2004 at 7:00, Wim Nusselder wrote:
    Dear David B.,
    I stated & asked 14 Jun 2004 07:58:59 +0200:
    'As a vegetarian I'll gladly discuss with you the relative quality of
    meat and vegetable food, but your gravy, alias your sense of 'fun'
    disgusts me. Can you please take your 'war between society and
    intellect' with Platt off-list?'
    I trust that you don't misunderstand that question as a question to
    stop contributing on this list (like Mark H. did 14 Jun 2004 06:19:44
    -0700). That would be inconsistent with the statement that 'I'll
    gladly discuss with you ...'.
    You answer is 'No' on 19 Jun 2004 14:26:54 -0600.
    I respect your right to think that the social and intellectual levels
    are related in a way that can be usefully described as 'war' (but
    disagree). I respect your right to consider your discussions with
    Platt about the relation between politics and the MoQ part of this
    'war'. You both seem to think the other one represents (primarily) 
    the social (lower) level in this discussion. It seems highly unlikely 
    that you are ever going to agree on that. If I remember rightly, you 
    have both stated that unlikelihood in your own words. Going on with 
    this discussion on-list doesn't really help others to understand or 
    develop the MoQ. It costs me more time than necessary to read your 
    postings on this subject. (I do read them, because both of you make 
    constructive points in your postings too and don't clearly separate 
    your 'war' from what I experience as your constructive writing).
    If you don't agree with that, can you at least decrease the amount of
    'gravy' alias 'fun' of belittling Platt?
    With friendly greetings,
    Wim
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