From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Tue Jun 22 2004 - 15:23:00 BST
Hi all,
Platt responds in Plattian fashion. He excises ONE sentence from
post which, in its entirety, contained much explication and points
for debate. He then posts a para from Pirsig, tsk-tsks, then tells
me I should read more.
I said, among many other things, that I'm giving Pirsig the benefit
of the doubt when he speaks of NYC as a "free market." If he really
means that the economy of NYC is a free market economy, then, he,
too, doesn't understand the term. Another thing that is ignored in
these discussions of the wonders of free enterprise is the tremendous
inequality that results. So, why don't we discuss some of these
points, or others from my previous post?
Best to all,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
-- InfoPro Consulting - The Professional Information Processors Custom Software Solutions for Windows, PDAs, and the Web Since 1983 Web Site: http://www.infoproconsulting.com "Thought is only a flash between two long nights, but this flash is everything." -- Henri Poincare' On 22 Jun 2004 at 9:01, Platt Holden wrote: Hi All, > On 21 Jun 2004 at 10:35, Platt Holden wrote: > > Pirsig: > "What makes the free-enterprise system superior is that the > socialists, reasoning intelligently and objectively, have > inadvertently closed the door to Dynamic Quality in the buying and > selling of things. They closed it because the metaphysical structure > of their objectivity never told them Dynamic Quality exists." (Lila, > 17) > > Platt: > To all egalitarians, communitarians and other radical left-wingers > who think the MOQ supports their collectivist social values--read it > again and weep. Intellect sides with free enterprise. > > msh says: > What Platt doesn't understand is that Pirsig is speaking about a > theoretical "Free Market" that doesn't exist. Nonsense. Pirsig writes: "People, like everything else, work better in parallel than they do in series, and that is what happens in THIS FREE ENTERPRISE CITY. When things are organized socialistically in a bureaucratic series, any increase in complexity increases the probability of failure. But when they're organized in a free-enterprise parallel, an increase in complexity becomes an increase in diversity more capable of responding to Dynamic Quality, and thus an increase of the probability of success. It's this diversity and parallelism that make this city work. And not just this city. Our greatest national economic success, agriculture, is organized almost entirely in parallel." (Lila, 17) (emphasis added) By "this free enterprise city" Pirsig is speaking about the existing New York, not some theoretical Utopia. Wouldn't you think that in a site dedicated to Pirsig that contributors would actually read what he wrote once in awhile? Best, Platt MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archives: Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archives: Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
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