From: Paul Vogel (nitzke@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 22 2004 - 15:49:38 BST
Hello All,
"The Horror, the horror."
Indeed!
The Heart of Darkness, Joseph Conrad:
FYI: dispairing gav
Monday, May 24, 2004 12:28 p.m. EDT
Israeli Agents Believed Involved in Abu Ghraib
Diplomatic sources in Washington tell NewsMax's U.N. correspondent Stew
Stogel that Israeli nationals are believed to be involved in the Iraq prison
controversy.
"Israelis have been to Abu Ghraib and other prisons [in Iraq]," says one
source familiar with the U.S. operations.
It was explained that the Israelis involved have been assigned as "civilian
contractors" to work with Coalition forces in interrogating Iraqi POWs.
The "contractors" are said to be veterans of Israel's domestic intelligence
unit, Shin Bet, as well as the more famous international intelligence
agency, the Mossad.
"Who has better experience in dealing with the Arabs than Israel?" one
source asked.
It was explained that several of the "interrogation" techniques used by U.S.
forces in Iraq have in fact been used by Israel "for years."
The technique of stripping Arab prisoners naked, to embarrass and humiliate
them, has been used by Israelis, according to Arab diplomats at the U.N.
It should be noted, however, that torture and mutilation are common
techniques used by Arab countries on their prisoners.
Word in NYC diplomatic circles is that some of the "civilians" seen in
recent Iraq prison photos are in fact Israeli nationals "advising" U.S.
forces.
Neither U.S. nor Iraqi diplomatic officials in NYC or Washington were
available for comment.
The charges come after an incident in April in which an Israeli Arab working
in Iraq was kidnapped and charged with spying.
Nabil George Yaakob Razouk, an Israeli Arab employed by Research Triangle
International, a North Carolina-based firm under contract to the State
Department, was abducted by Iraqi insurgents and said to be a spy.
Razouk, working on "local governance" advising, was seized in Najaf and held
for more than two weeks.
Only the personal intervention of Yassir Arafat, who acted after pleas from
the Razouk family, is believed to have saved him from execution.
The latest disclosures come as an Iraqi diplomatic team has temporarily
canceled a visit to U.N. headquarters to consult with the Security Council
about the modalities for the transfer of power expected on July 1.
Among the Council ambassadors with whom the Iraqis are expected to meet is
U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte.
Negroponte will leave his U.N. post next month to become the new U.S.
ambassador to Iraq, once the Coalition authority is dissolved.
Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:
Israel
Saddam Hussein/Iraq
>From: gav <gav_gc@yahoo.com.au>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: MD Horror
>Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:45:29 +1000 (EST)
>
>i just watched an american documentary on Iraq that
>focussed on the torture of Iraqi detainess. It was
>extremely disturbing.
>As many will already suspect, mistreatment and torture
>are official US government policy since guantanamo.
>the general in charge of guantanomo - a general miller
>- developed a protocol called 'stress and duress'
>which outlined different techniques and levels of
>torture. the prisoners at guantanomo were considered
>exempt from the geneva conventions.
>same general miller is now in charge of all prisons in
>Iraq and the same protocols are used. over 30
>prisoners have died in iraq from torture gone toofar.
>the great majority of prisoners are non-combatants, ie
>innocent. they are imprisoned without trial and when
>released are shunned by their peers because their
>humiliation has been made public, deliberately. it is
>called social death. the acts inflicted upon the
>prisoners are spefically designed to violate moslem
>sensibilities; much local knowledge is needed (ie it
>is coming from above).
>
>all this occurs against a backdrop of general violence
>and murder of civilians in iraq: men, women and
>children. some US soldiers have deserted and refuse to
>kill anymore but they are treated as pariahs. one
>deserter was sentenced to a year in jail recently.
>
>okay so where from here?
>what can we do, individually? renounce our
>nationality? is that a tactic worth considering? how
>the hell do we stop the escalation of violence from
>reaching 'revelations' proportions?
>it seems to me that only INDIVIDUAL action can change
>our course. can we redeem ourselves and our societies?
>how? any ideas (eg thoreau's refusal to pay tax to
>fund the war on mexico)
>
>despairing
>gav
>
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