Re: MD The Final Cut

From: Charles Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Wed Jun 23 2004 - 05:23:25 BST

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    Amen. Also, Vogel, maybe reconsider the incessant peppering of your
    schlock with emoticons; it gives your propaganda the appearance of a
    12-year-old-girl text-messaging her friends and is truly a modern
    refuge for the weak-minded electronic contributer. Actually, on second
    thought, don't change a thing.

    ctr

    On Jun 22, 2004, at 4:44 PM, Valence wrote:

    > To all,
    >
    > As a Pirsig enthusiast for almost a decade and a half, a member of this
    > discussion group since near its inception, and a member of the Steering
    > Committee, I write this post with a heavy heart. But in the past few
    > months
    > I have seen the discussion in this group degenerate from rational
    > philosophical explorations of Pirsig's philosophy to petty political
    > squabbling of the most disgusting kind (like an email version of CNN's
    > "Crossfire" but where the participants try to bolster their positions
    > by
    > referring to Pirsig quotes) and increasingly vicious ad hominem
    > attacks.
    >
    > Today I came home and was greeted by one particular post which came
    > off as
    > little more than a brazenly anti-semitic rant about how the war in
    > Iraq is
    > the result of a vast zionist conspiracy that controls the American
    > government. On the level of argument, I can only say that this theory
    > is so
    > far beyond preposterous and riddled with logical holes as to be
    > unworthy of
    > intellectual reply. To the author that post, I can say only that I
    > sincerely hope I have misinterpreted you, but otherwise, I think you're
    > beneath contempt, an insult to Pirsig's legacy, and that your presence
    > is a
    > stain on this forum.
    >
    > I would never dream of asking Horse to ban someone just because I
    > disagreed
    > with the content of their ideas, but neither will I continue to subject
    > myself to the socially hateful and intellectually vapid bickering that
    > this
    > list has been reduced to. First it just quieted me down... then it
    > turned
    > me into a strict lurker... now I'm through.
    >
    > Over the past six or seven years (I can't even remember how long it's
    > been),
    > I believe I have learned a great deal from various forum members who
    > greatly
    > contributed to my understanding of Pirsig, philosophy, people and life
    > in
    > general (and I hope maybe I helped some of them learn a thing or two).
    > To
    > all of those people, I offer my warmest gratitude and my best wishes
    > for the
    > future. I am also hard at work on an essay for the forum which I
    > still plan
    > to complete (and I hope will be of some value to someone). I have yet
    > to
    > decide whether I will continue on in the MF beyond this month (the MF,
    > I'm
    > happy to say, seems to have retained its traditionally high quality of
    > discussion), but I'm done with MD for the foreseeable future.
    >
    > That's all. You may now resume the cacophony.
    >
    > take care,
    > rick.
    >
    >
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