From: Paul Vogel (nitzke@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 25 2004 - 00:42:25 BST
Hello All,
From: http://www.nationalvanguard.com
Cyber-Freedom Under Threat, Says Report
Report; Posted on: 2004-06-23 15:48:06 [ Printer friendly ]
Reporters Without Borders shares free speech concerns with White activists
According to a new report, the freedom of individuals around the world to
surf the net is under threat from the policies of “democracies” as well as
openly authoritarian regimes and dictatorships.
Says Agence France Presse: “The report, by media watchdog Reporters Without
Borders, said there had been a raft of restrictions on internet freedom set
in place in 2004 and called for ‘vigilance’.
“In the Internet under surveillance report, the authors distinguished
between dictatorships like China that ‘gag the internet’, and democracies,
which they said threatened freedom of expression in the name of fighting
pornography, racism or global terrorism.
“’The report should not be seen as a kind of ranking of regimes by their
repression of the internet, but more an appeal for vigilance in countries
where, as in democracies, it's still possible to expose abuses and flaws,’
the report said.”
The prominent Jewish organization the ADL is a major proponent of censorship
in America and around the world. In the ADL article “ADL Experts Address
OSCE Paris Conference on Internet Hate” the Jewish group sites its efforts
to restrict access to information on the Internet both in the private sector
and government.
Agence France Presse article
White leader Don Black’s speech before the International European American
Unity and Leadership Conference, Sunday May 30, 2004, details the relentless
attacks by powerful interest groups to shut down his influential pro-White
Internet site, Stormfront.org.
Source: Henry Reese
BTW: My ideas are not "racist", whatsoever, but, they are "separatist" ideas
and they are "Freedom-loving" ideals that actually do put the best interests
of my own people first, for a change, and as many other people's also do
have
every human right to do so, and without such "denunciation" or "slander".
I have "not budged an iota" because I feels quite comfortable in suggesting
and asserting that the separate and not equal perspective within my own
Cosmotheist Community Church is not at all "racist", but, only reflects the
factual and the WHOLE and the scientific and rational TRUTHS of REALITY.
It is clear that the only "real haters" are only those that are attempting
to censor
these WHOLE COSMOTHEIST TRUTHS of REALITY for their own quite deceptive
and vile purposes of destroying all "races" other than their own for only
their own
quite ignorant and selfish purposes and via their mutual genocide via
miscegenation.
I do what I do because:
I love my own family, I love my own people, I love my own nation,
I love my own culture, and I love my own COSMOTHEIST religion
enough to defend it from all enemies, both alien and domestic,
and to preserve, to protect, and to advance them ever towards
GODHOOD and towards the ever higher levels of CONSCIOUSNESS
and Human Being via ARETE' and CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION and via
EUGENICS.
Best regards,
Paul Vogel
http://www.cosmotheism.net
>From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: Re: MD The Final Cut
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:44:39 -0700
>
>Hi Dan and Rich,
>
>There's actually a fourth way to deal with such a person, which is a
>combination of Rich's 2 and 3: Argue with him in a
>reasoned, respectful manner till you've proved his ideas are racist,
>then denounce him and his ideas by calling them what they are.
>
>This is the method I used, though I can certainly understand Rich's
>POV. Still, as Dan has pointed out, my argument was a waste of time
>and energy. If you look at his response to my last series of
>questions, you'll see that not only has he not budged an iota, but he
>feels quite comfortable in suggesting that the separate and not even
>equal perspective within his "church" is not at all racist. So...
>there ya go.
>
>Anyway, I'm taking Dan's advice. The guy and his hate seem happy
>together, so I'll leave him alone with his hate.
>
>Best to all,
>Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
>
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>
>
>
>
>On 24 Jun 2004 at 12:39, Dan Glover wrote:
>
>Hello everyone
>
> >From: Richard Loggins <brloggins@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> >Subject: Re: MD The Final Cut
> >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >- I should explain that there are three approaches to
> >a guy like Paul V, 1)ignore him which is a tacit
> >condoning of his views, 2)argue with him in a
> >reasoned, respectful manner which gives the impression
> >that his views are equally respectable or legitamite,
> >or 3)denounce him and his ideas by calling him names
> >like bigot. I chose the last route because if there
> >ever was an appropriate time for ad hominem attacks,
> >this is it.
>
>Hi Rich
>
>I think I disagree that to ignore someone is a tacit condoning of his
>views. By acknowledging someone who is spewing hate you give them a
>platform upon which they can climb in order to spew their vile ever
>farther. You're not going to change a person's mind when their views
>are extreme to begin with so there's no reason to argue with them.
>And what possible difference are you going to make by calling them
>names? Odds are they've already been called that and worse. Besides,
>that's what they want!
>
>I don't think this subject comes up in ZMM or LILA but during my work
>on LILA'S CHILD I got the impression that Robert Pirsig's Subjects,
>Objects, Data and Values presentation fell upon deaf ears. I had the
>opportunity to ask Mr. Pirsig if he would use a different approach in
>the future. He said he thought it best to leave them (his audience)
>alone with their paradoxes. I think it's best to leave someone alone
>with their hate.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>
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