Re: MD The Final Cut

From: Charles Vanderford (proskuneo@fastermail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 25 2004 - 00:28:55 BST

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    Mark Heyman wrote:

    Re: Anyway, I'm taking Dan's advice. The guy and his hate seem happy
    Re: together, so I'll leave him alone with his hate. 
     

     

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    Re: On 24 Jun 2004 at 12:39, Dan Glover wrote:
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    Re: Hello everyone
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    Re: >From: Richard Loggins
    Re: >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Re: >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    Re: >Subject: Re: MD The Final Cut
    Re: >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
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    Re: >- I should explain that there are three approaches to
    Re: >a guy like Paul V, 1)ignor e him which is a tacit
    Re: >condoning of his views, 2)argue with him in a
    Re: >reasoned, respectful manner which gives the impression
    Re: >that his views are equally respectable or legitamite,
    Re: >or 3)denounce him and his ideas by calling him names
    Re: >like bigot. I chose the last route because if there
    Re: >ever was an appropriate time for ad hominem attacks,
    Re: >this is it.
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    Re: Hi Rich
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    Re: I think I disagree that to ignore someone is a tacit condoning of his
    Re: views. By acknowledging someone who is spewing hate you give them a
    Re: platform upon which they can climb in order to spew their vile ever
    Re: farther. You're not going to change a person's mind when their views
    Re: are extreme to begin with so there's no reason to argue with them.
    Re: And what possible difference are you going to make by calling them
    Re: names? Odds are they've already been called that and worse. Besides,
    Re: that's what they want!
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    Re: I don't think this subject comes up in ZMM or LILA but during my work
    Re: on LILA'S CHILD I got the impression that Robert Pirsig's Subjects,
    Re: Objects, Data and Values presentation fell upon deaf ears. I had the
    Re: opportunity to ask Mr. Pirsig if he would use a different approach in
    Re: the future. He said he thought it best to leave them (his audience)
    Re: alone with their paradoxes. I think it's best to leave someone alone
    Re: with their hate.
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    Re: Dan
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