Re: MD immoral irony?????

From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 29 2004 - 18:02:12 BST

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    Hi Mark,

    >These are human conventions. Just imagine the bio level BEFORE the
    human social level was laid upon it. Did race exist then?

    As soon as there were enough humans to interact in predictable ways, the
    human social level was born, it was those predictions. And one could argue
    that there are many seperate social levels that evolved in different
    geographies, as each area had its own set of expectations of how a human
    should behave with other humans. There is probably a shared set of
    universal expectations, but this is by no means a given. We might think
    that helping a neighbor care for children is a pretty universal social
    pattern, or speaking language, or teaching agriculture, until we come across
    a remote culture that does none of these things. Back when people were
    first moving away from each other and seperating, it was probably for social
    as well as biological reasons. Not enough food for everyone here, so we're
    going across the river, or maybe, you stole my spear, so you are banished.
    And as generations went by, the groups evolved different social patterns and
    could tell each other apart by their looks also. Sometimes they probably
    hated each other and considered each other completely different, not to be
    dealt with at all, and certainly not to be married with.

    Say, are the different Indian tribes considered different races? Do the
    Hutus and Tutsi's consider themselves different races? Germans and French?
    Canadians? I think maybe a different race is anyone you think comes from a
    different background and whose relatives look different from your relatives,
    and if you married, the child would look somewhere in between.

    Johnny

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