From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat Jul 03 2004 - 18:12:41 BST
Hi Mark and all,
A very interesting though contentious subject, Mark.
I want to explore mystical apprehensions in Human relationships. Mystical does not mean instinctive, yet like self-preservation it can occur without a self-aware focus. If mystical occurs by chance it is in response to a preference or tendency. In some instances the level approached is not in my awareness. Mystical applies to actions as well as knowledge. I can't imagine hitting a 95 mph fastball with a bat for average. IMO training, 'the initiation', applies to mystical action. A hero is the way I would describe an individual who attains the mystical.
Joseph Campbell in *The Hero With A Thousand Faces* opens with a consideration of the Monomyth. What seems to be the same for all heroes? In section 3 'The Hero and the God' p. 30 he writes:
"The standard path of the mythological adventure of the hero is a magnification of the formula represented in the rites of passage: 'separation-initiation-return:' which might be named the monomyth.
"'A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man.'" end quote.
joe: the toast to a hero was my contribution at my son's wedding. To me this describes the apprehension and manifestation of DQ. How to apply this to Human relationships?
IMO what is heroic for a man is different from what is heroic for a woman. I will take a stab at the difference, but I am not a woman so pardon if my conjecture is silly. IMO men and women have a minuscular (adverb from minuscule) different moral sense! I propose that men have a minuscular greater participation in the intellectual order-the unfinished part of it. I propose that women have a minuscular greater participation in the social order- where everything belongs. There is enough difference to change their respective physiology, but not enough difference to change their level. Sex Matters! More or less! The male outlook is slightly different than the female outlook. Without self-knowledge assurance in the relationship is disturbed.
Joe Maurer
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