From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Tue Jul 06 2004 - 15:15:44 BST
Dear Platt,
You quoted 26 Jun 2004 08:09:42 -0400 from the poem 'Do not stand at my
grave and weep'.
(I found it so beautiful, that I looked it up. Had come across the idea
before. Didn't remember having seen the full poem.
I found two different versions on
www.hcu.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/jtap/board/config.pl?read=7331 . Why did you leave
out the last bit: "I did not die"?
It reminds me of our discussion of Pirsig and his dead son whose patterns
remain.)
You wrote 30 Jun 2004 12:17:14 -0400:
'Science, law, medicine, philosophy, all noble pursuits. But poetry, that's
what we live for.'
You wrote 26 Jun 2004 09:58:45 -0400:
'I'm not sure [whether beautiful patterns evolve and in a sense improve by
becoming more complex and
communicating more "Meaning"]. Modern abstract art for me has little or no
"meaning." So in that respect, I would say, "no." Also, I consider "meaning"
to be the province of intellect rather than art. Intellect explains how life
began, maintains itself and evolves. Art shows what it's like to live.'
Capitalized "Meaning" is my term for "what we live for". I capitalize it to
distinguish it from the "meaning" that's merely 4th level quality.
I don't think it is the poetry itself what we live for. It's that to which
it points beyond itself and beyond any 4th level "meaning" of its words.
"Purpose" comes close, too, except that it is not given by someone but
discovered/recognized. It "just" comes into being.
Poetry is not the only type of human endeavour that point towards it...
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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