Re: MD the metaphysics of self-interest

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Jul 17 2004 - 13:48:25 BST

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    Agree.

    David M
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    From: "Paul Turner" <paul@turnerbc.co.uk>
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    Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 9:04 PM
    Subject: RE: MD the metaphysics of self-interest

    > Hi David
    >
    > David M said:
    > But would
    > > you say that anything is fundamental to
    > > the MOQ?
    >
    > Paul:
    > What I meant by "fundamental" here was: that which everything is
    > composed of, or in terms of a philosophy, that which everything must be
    > described by.
    >
    > In a SOM everything is composed of mind or matter, and accordingly
    > everything must be described in terms of a subject and objects.
    >
    > In the MOQ, everything is composed of value, and accordingly everything
    > must be described in terms of value.
    >
    > The distinction I made is that anything that is *a pattern of* value is
    > real, but it is value itself that is fundamental. Subjects and objects
    > are described as patterns of value. Hence, subjects and objects are real
    > but not fundamental.
    >
    > David M said:
    > In a way Quality, DQ/SQ
    > > is I guess, but this is only one possible
    > > cut of reality I guess, it has a certain
    > > advantage over the subject-object cut,
    > > but there could be other useful cuts, say
    > > between current experience and remembered
    > > experience -which would tell us certain things about experience but
    > > not as much as SQ/DQ. Would you agree with this?
    >
    > Paul:
    > There are certainly different ways of dividing reality. I think "current
    > and remembered" comes close to Dynamic and static, actually.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Paul
    >
    >
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