Re: MD the metaphysics of free-enterprise

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sun Jul 18 2004 - 11:40:28 BST

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    Mel:Aggregate summations, or averages, or estimates
    of morality based on assembling other peoples'
    actions is a fiction, a reduction to Static Quality.

    DM: Let us think. We go to work. People
    give us things to do. We take the pay so we
    are obliged to do them. We have given away our
    responsibility, we allow others to decide what we
    will do. This is command and authority and is based
    on millitary models. Maybe we all need the right to
    decide what we will do at work? Sorry
    boss I think that decision is immoral, I cannot do that!
    Currently this is a good way of never having a job!

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "ml" <mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com>
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    Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:37 AM
    Subject: Re: MD the metaphysics of free-enterprise

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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 4:01 AM
    > Subject: Re: MD the metaphysics of free-enterprise
    >
    >
    > > Hi all
    > >
    > > The reality is surely that for many corporations
    > > quality would be improved for them to be managed
    > > out into non-existence. We create false incentives
    > > via capitalism to stop this happening. We need mechanisms/
    > > cultures/methods etc for putting quality and freedom
    > > above profits and losses that tell only a limited picture.
    > > I am surprised anyone here disagrees with this.
    >
    > There is one valid disagrement...morality is only real,
    > when it is exercised from the individual life and the
    > intents/actions/choices of that life. THAT IS DYNAMIC
    >
    > Aggregate summations, or averages, or estimates
    > of morality based on assembling other peoples'
    > actions is a fiction, a reduction to Static Quality.
    >
    > The very 'mechanisms' for institutionalizing the attributes
    > of quality and freedom over the attributes of profit/loss
    > are themselves static qualities. To really work you and I must
    > ourselves choose the quality and freedom in/by our own actions
    > and not reduce them to just another set of competing choices.
    >
    > lead by example... (of course I have not REALLY disagreed.)
    >
    > thanks--mel
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > > regards
    > > David M
    > >
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