RE: MD A Call to Accountability

From: Struan Hellier (struan@clara.co.uk)
Date: Mon Jun 19 2000 - 15:05:52 BST


Greetings,

Firstly a quick comment to JoVo. Thanks for the posting. I disagree with your assessment of my
motivation, but appreciate being made to think about it in such a way. I do a lot more than merely
contradict, always giving step by step rebuttals and citing evidence where needed and, as you,
"consider (my) contributions in general as not only beneficial
for an understanding of the MoQ, if not even indispensable," I wonder that you are worried about why
I do it. Can't you just be happy that someone does?

IAN:
"If Pirsig is right or wrong is less in question, for me, than that he
*cares*. He has documented bashing his head against a glass wall and
this is, ultimately, heroic. I earnestly wish that one day I should
have the same courage."

Quite right. Perhaps you should be more like me, Ian. Caring about questions AND answers does bring
attacks upon oneself, (as shown in your ultimate paragraph). Still, I bash away astonished that
anyone would have the remotest interest in my motivation.

The good and the true. What more motivation could I need?

Struan

P.S. To answer David Lind and others. "Take heed what you hear; the measure you give will be the
measure you get, and still more will be given you." (Mark 4:24). I ask those who would criticise me
for my tone to find a posting of mine to which they object and then look at the posting I am
replying to with an equally critical eye. I never initiate it, but am happy to give it back. The
sole reason why only I get it in the neck is that people also find my ideas objectionable. Can
anyone out there look me in the eye and tell me that, for example, Rich Pretti didn't go way beyond
me in insults and childishness? And yet the closest anyone has come to criticising him is David with
his gentle request that he and I 'play nice.' The elaboration, even here, was aimed at me! Don't get
me wrong, I don't feel hard done by at all. I am merely pointing out an element of hypocrisy here.

Enough of this side-show, I am pleased to see that a number of people have responded to ideas I have
raised, and in the same reasonable and polite way in which I raised them. I will now turn my
attention to them and, of course, respond to them in the same way I have always responded to those
who don't automatically treat me like a wanker for no other reason than that they disagree with me.
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Struan Hellier
< mailto:struan@clara.co.uk>
"All our best activities involve desires which are disciplined and
purified in the process."
(Iris Murdoch)

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