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From: 3rdWavedave <dlt44@ipa.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:11 AM
> > > One said, choise [sic] and free will are necessary to human memetic
evolution,
> > otherwise there could be no directed modifacation of l- memes and there
> > could be no selection between alternative versions created by such modi-
> > fications (g- memes).
>
> 3WD
> My recent focus on the work of William James leads me to comment that
> his definition of "free" will is limited to a choice, between
> alternatives, which if made now can be reasonably expected to be
> experienced in the future as the "wished for" results. But he
> emphasizes that in many cases " no decision" or "no choice" is a choice.
> In the spreading or replication of value patterns or memes my guess is
> that this is the most common or prevalent case.
>
> A good deal of what you talk about in the rest of the 2:46 pm split
> could be tied to what James discussed as "habit" in his early work.
<< Of course ! William James and most of his colleages were Lamarckians.
As being an American, James and most of his countrymen, did accept a
form of evolution, even it was Lamarckian. However, James would work
to fight Darwin 's conception of man as an evolutionary development.
James was one of the Harvard men, they wanted to reconcile science
with religion. They all bend before Lamarckism because it had a greater
congruence with religion. ( The first Americans were Puritians)
Now still today, Americans never accepted Darwinism and still reject it !
See for more on that subject,
http://members.aol.com/nonracists/dvpuritn.html
http://members.aol.com/nonracists/dvdarwin.html
You can link from there to Deviancy Lamarckianism/ Deviancy Reform Thought
also link to C3sum.htm on www.hcc.hawaii.edu
It would give you a greater insight why some memetisists, like myself, swear
by all that is Lamarckian...
Enjoy,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) tempted
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