Re: MD Human rights

From: elliot hallmark (onoffononoffon@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed May 22 2002 - 20:11:07 BST


Hello again,

gavin wrote:
as pirsig says the intellectual level is about human rights. human rights
are about egalitarianism and freedom. this egality and liberty (and
fraternity?; maybe the french were on to something hey?) are necessary for
the individual to develop intellectually and spiritually (in the moq these
are congruent processes).
simple really.

Elliot:
small/big correction. The intellectual level is not about human rights,
human rights are about the intellectual level. Human rights are infact the
social levels response to demands of the intellect. so, although one can
look at human rights and say they are "about freedom" one can also point out
that because the intellect is dependant upon the social to establish these
limited "rights", human rights are also about un-freedom. rights are laws
which are imposed by social institutions (no matter how great and idealistic
they are), true freedom is not something that is imposed by social
institutions, and it is not something that needs to be legitimated by social
means.

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