The subconscious is Unknown Quality - enteletchy's way
of surprise.
André
--- Lawrence de Bivort <debivort@umd5.umd.edu> wrote:
> Re: MD SubconsciousAt a minimum, it is useful for
> some purposes for us to
> see ourselves as a collection of 'parts', each
> 'responsible' for different
> functions. This is of course just a metaphor, a
> representation of the
> reality. Why useful? Because we can then deal with
> these different parts
> and how they interact with the rest of us. For
> example: there is a 'part'
> of me that wants to write this email, and part that
> wants do get back to my
> real work, and yet another part that wants to go
> play. Oh yes, and there is
> that darn fourth part that wants some more _hot_
> tea. Well, I can't do it
> all right now. I continue writing this. Why? It is
> the resultant of all
> these parts arguing with each other. OK, it is
> stormy, so I'll play later --
> promise. OK, I'll make this brief, so I can get back
> to my real work
> quickly. Tea? Well, by gum, this is your fourth mug
> today and it is still
> mid-morning in my time zone. Oh, OK, I guess I am
> really cold, not thirsty.
> So the tea 'part' opts for a sweater. View, all
> 'parts' happy? Yeah!
> Uh-huh. OK, here. Yup, I'm cool with that. I mean,
> warm.
>
> Cheers,
> Lawry, the container for all of his parts, and those
> who showed up
> Tea
> Play
> Real Work
> This email
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
> [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of
> Rod Porteous
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:57 AM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: Re: MD Subconscious
>
>
> Dear Wim et al
>
> I really don't see what is wrong with accepting
> the idea that we are
> individuals made up of parts.....
> It doesn't worry me that I have an unconscious
> mind, a subconscious mind
> and a conscious one... it's just the way we have
> evolved, the unconscious
> mind has been reacting to DQ long before we made the
> leap to consciousness.
>
> As previously stated I have reorganised my
> thoughts to include the
> unconscious mind which is common to all humanity,
> leaving the subconscious
> to be individual to each of us, formed out of our
> own experiences.
>
> As for your question " Where does the 'separate,
> conscious part of your
> being' go when you are
> asleep?!? " , it doesn't go anywhere it is a part
> of you, where could it
> go to? I always had assumed that sleep was necessary
> in part to rest the
> conscious mind as well as the body.
>
> And I'm sorry to say I can't accept the analogy of
> a dark room with a
> candle in it, I think of my conscious mind as a
> projection from within both
> the unconscious and subconscious, almost like a
> coral polyp coming out the
> when I awake and retreating back to the safety of
> its home, when I sleep.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rod
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> on 20/8/02 9:24 am, Wim Nusselder at
> wim.nusselder@antenna.nl wrote:
>
> > Re: MD SubconsciousDear Rod,
> >
> > Why do you think 'subconscious' and 'conscious'
> are separate parts of
> your
> > being?
> > I don't need that split. I don't even need the
> idea that 'I' is a
> subject
> > that 'runs' things or 'is run' by things (except
> to communicate with
> others
> > who are still under that illusion).
> >
> > Can't we just think of ourselves as a room in
> which a lot of things are
> > going on in connection with things outside.
> There is a little candle in
> this
> > room illuminating now this, now that part. The
> part of the room that is
> > illuminated is not separate from the rest that
> is -for the moment- dark.
> >
> > Where does the 'separate, conscious part of your
> being' go when you are
> > asleep?!?
> >
>
>
>
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