Wim
> 1 don't think we're here to create consensus.
Then we're succeeding famously.
> I meant rather that the start of oral language TRADITIONS marked the jump
> from social to intellect.
> Do you still agree?
Nope. I think oral language traditions emerged and evolved sometime
during the evolution of the social level and the jump to the
intellectual was based on language already being stable in some
rudimentary form. But I don't think we'll ever know with certainty just
when in history this jump occured, nor do I think it that "when" is that
important. What is important is what type of events signify this jump.
I mentioned "intelligence" and "intellect" in my last post and after
returning to a dictionary I think the definitions maybe useful in trying
to discriminate between social and intellectual events.
intellegence- 1. a) the ability to learn or understand from experience;
ability to acquire and retain knowledge....
intellect- 1 a) the ability to reason or understand or perceive
relationships, differences, etc....
If we then strike "to understand" from both definitions I think they are
sufficiently different to say that "intellegence" is more a social
quality and "intellect" well an intellectual quality.
So let me describe an event that I think illustrates the difference
between the two; intellegence/intellect or social/intellectual. Image a
group of hunter gathers, their intellegence allows them to remember what
type of berries are good to eat, when they will ripen and where the are
located, all intellegence/social events in fact some would argue
biological.(But just to make it clear one gather turn to the other and
says, "Joe the berries should be ripe today let's go check) But at some
point in time probably through happenstance or accident somebody figured
out "how" these berries came to be. Conditions and circumstances were
just right and some discarded ripe berries they picked sprouted and grew
while Joe observed it. He made the connection, reasoned, that these
sprouts would at some time in the future produce more berries. And
either then, or much latter, further reasoned, that if these berries
were scattered around closer to the cave everyone would have lots to eat
and a much shorter distance to walk. This type of event signifies to me
the jump from social to intellectual.
3WD
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