From: Buff .. (buffinasia@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 11 2002 - 18:22:42 GMT
>From: "Monkeys' tail or" Subject: Re: MD Staying power of static pattrns
>Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:50:56 +0000
>
>
>Hi Jonathan, Wim
>
>DAVOR
>The static patterns are static because they proofed themselves to
>be of high quality, so the longer a static pattern of value seem to last
>the higher the quality is.
Buff:
A static pattern's propensity for change is not neccessarily dependant upon
the highness or lowness of the dynamic quality which they 'valued as a
precondition' .The static patterns propensity for change, (hopefully a
propensity to become higher quality) can be linked to another deciding
factor: the interrelation of the levels of evolution which the two competing
static patterns relate to, for example: the ferocity of the science vs
religion debate,will have influenced many of static patterns laid down
during the fight and may have had bias put into them,whereby the most
pragmatic static pattern does not latch, instead the evolutionary level with
the most power (in this case the Church) protects its own staus quo by
latching its choice.This is where one evolutionary level uses static
patterns of value to attempt to preclude the possibility of change as that
change would detrimentally affect/ even destroy some of what it believes to
be high quality patterns but which a valuable understanding can see as low
quality self-preserving patterns of value.
Historically we know this is evident, we are all aware that scientific
investigation was a high quality static latch but Pirsig tells us it is
still lacking a cricial aspect: value, and that's because the Church bullied
in for it's own ends, forcing science to prove itself on the sidelines,
giving it no room to have creative control of truth, based on it's fear that
science might disprove God.
This is no fear - fine individuals like Mr.Pirsig are taking this into
account when they attempt to make their own dynamic understanding into
static latches, (dynamic quality being undefinable based on the truth that
all description is a product/subset of DQ)
Any authority which answers only to God or itself is primed to make low SQ,
we as individuals are primed to break such inequality and create an
harmonious society.
And that is evident here on MOQ.org
Wim:
>So we can distinguish patterns of values by their location on a gliding
>scale of more/less stability/versatility AND we can do so by the way in
>which they are maintained/latched.
Buff:
spot on - yet; versatility of a static pattern is not dependant on its
quality.
If versatility is a characteristic of a static p.o.v. the likelihood is that
it values a precondition of high quality. (otherwise it would be gone in a
flash)
The closer to DQ that SQ is, the higher its value, as this will foster
simplicity and ease of explanation.
the valid search for the diverse truth will make us better.
Be;well.
-Buff.
p.s. today's devil's advocate statement:
" there is no fourth level of evolution yet apparent, the third level is
intellect, society never existed outside of biological instinct or
intellectual cooperatives (however low quality)"
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