Re: MD Can Only Humans Respond to DQ?

From: Blaize M. Kaye (blaize@raxel.com)
Date: Wed Dec 04 2002 - 09:26:15 GMT

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    Hi there,

    I don't think that the two characters insanity were really very different or
    located at different levels (ie. biological or intellectual) both of their
    behaviours were contrary to accepted social practice... therefore they are
    labeled insane (see Pirsigs writings about "a culture of one")
    Whatever caused them to adopt this "culture of one" seems to be irrelevant.

    Insanity itself is a social category, people who don't conform to societal
    norms are (if their behaviour is sufficiently deviant) deemed insane.
    "Insanity" in being a social term, can only occur at the social level.
    You can think what you like (intellectual level) as long as it doesn't
    effect your functioning in society... only then does it become a real
    (social) problem for men in white coats or blue uniforms to deal with (these
    men are themselves protectors of the social level).

    Regards
    Blaize M. Kaye

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    From: "Monkeys' tail or" <elkeaapheefteen@hotmail.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:50 AM
    Subject: RE: MD Can Only Humans Respond to DQ?

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    > Hi Erin,
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    > >I was interested in this that's why I asked if anybody
    > >had ever compared Lila's and Phaedrus's insanity.
    > >It's interesting that he knows exactly what she's going
    > >through despite him being an intellectual 'elite' and
    > >her 'intellectually nowhere' whatever that means.
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    > I think they both experience a deviation from the social level, in that
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    > they are equally insane if that's a valid term to use, and that is why
    > Pirsig recognised what she was going through. They differ in insanity
    > because Pirsig was intellectually insane and Lila biologically insane, but
    > that is just my opinion.
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    > davor
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