From: Glenn Bradford (gmbbradford@netscape.net)
Date: Fri Jan 03 2003 - 06:07:18 GMT
Horse and all,
By "belittle" I mean to lessen the authority, dignity, or reputation of. For example, here is something Jung wrote:
Through scientific understanding, our world has
become dehumanised. Man feels himself isolated
in the cosmos. He is no longer involved in nature
and has lost his emotional participation in natural
events, which hitherto had a symbolic meaning for
him. Thunder is no longer the voice of a god, nor
is lightning his avenging missile. No river contains
a spirit, no tree makes a mans's life, no snake is
the embodiment of wisdom and no mountain still
harbours a great demon. Neither do things speak to him
nor can he speak to things, like stones, springs, plants
and animals."
This general sentiment is felt by Pirsig and many an
MOQite. People here prefer animism and myths and other
pre-scientific ideas to science and I don't think
this is some fluke. Scientific intellectualism is the
reason for the insanity and psychic loneliness of the 20th
century, remember? And the Church of Reason. Isn't that a
bit of a come down? Read my past posts if you want more
evidence. I've written plenty about it, from his take on the
scientific method to his view on zoology and many points in
between.
Glenn
"Horse" <horse@darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
>Hi All
>
>On 2 Jan 2003 at 0:06, Glenn Bradford wrote:
>
>> Actually, the Jungians (and Pirsig) are quite ambivalent and
>> in some ways hypocritical in their attitudes toward science. No
>> sooner do they belittle science than they ask for its expansion
>> so that their dearest ideas can be admitted as such.
>>
>
>You seem to have a real problem with Pirsig and science. Why don't you provide some
>evidence to show how and where Pirsig belittles science.
>
>Horse
>
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