From: Mari (mld2001@adelphia.net)
Date: Sat Jan 04 2003 - 01:49:53 GMT
Hi Erin,
Thanks for your feedback. i'd like to ask a few questions.
Can you explain "karmic garbage"?
"Concerns" can be a good thing.
Are you saying that there is a connection between "programs" and "plans" and
"karmic garbage"? Can MoQ.org be viewed as a "program" of sorts?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=program
"Everybody's ideas of a
> good program is going to be different, depending
> on what you value."
And that means what? don't use something that obviously has Value and the
potentiality to make a difference in the world? Don't rally the wagons and
move "it" to another level where it effects changes in a collectively agreed
upon way???
>"MOQ works very well for me as a personal tool to
> understand how different people value different
> things and its all good." Nothing wrong with that Erin. Let your
conscience and values be your guide. That said, it doesn't mean there is no
Value in joining forces and making a difference beyond ones personal space.
>"> If Pirsig values freedom wouldn't it be contradictory
> to develop a program to tell people what to do."
Connecting the dots in this way, lends itself IMHO to convoluting the
picture: "If Pirsig values freedom wouldn't it be contradictory to develop a
program 'to tell people what to do'" to tell people what to do"? Where did
that come from? What about "being united" in conviction, aim, and intent?
"Give me a place to stand on, and I will move the earth."
Sometimes i think that responses to posts here in MoQdg sound like the
bickering by democrates at republicans and visa versa forgetting all the
while that first they are human, then countrymen and then politicans.
Reactionism leads to reactionism Matt's piece "reprint of Confessions" where
he covers "arguments" addresses this pretty nicely.
Pirsig IS doing something: he's hiding out. This does not mean that i don't
value his contribution because i do! i'm even awed at his insights! But
unlike other brillant minds that contribute to the knowedge base and then
follow through with personal partisipation Mr Pirsig dropped out and i don't
buy his explaination of why he leaves us alone. When Arthur Rimbaud did a
similar thing it was said that he commited artistic suicide. Didn't WJ Sidis
do the same thing; drop out?
i have been blessed to meet and talk with some of the people who i admire
and effected positive change in my life. i wish RMP was one of them!
Respectfully,
Mari
>
> He promotes absorbing karmic garbage.
> I have a lot of concerns that many "programs" and "plans"
> do just that. Everybody's ideas of a
> good program is going to be different, depending
> on what you value. MOQ works very well for me as a personal tool to
> understand how different people value different
> things and its all good.
> If Pirsig values freedom wouldn't it be contradictory
> to develop a program to tell people what to do.
> His actions was to tell stories. These
> actions are not contradictory to what he is teaching.
> To tell an author who I believe works really
> hard on his novels that he is not 'doing' anything
> is wrong to me.
>
> Erin
>
>
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