From: Matt the Enraged Endorphin (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Mon Jan 06 2003 - 04:59:54 GMT
DMB,
You're a funny guy, DMB ;-)
DMB said:
So everbody's point of view is correct and thinking otherwise is the
enshrinement of my own point of view as "God's". Oh please. Have words lost
all meaning? Has it become impossible to be mistaken or to have an incorrect
opinion?
...
If we can't say what is right and wrong, what
is supportable and made-up, what is rational and what is fallacious, how can
we even discuss it. No, I think the idea that everyone's POV is equally
correct does a grave injustice to those who have worked hard and spent the
time it takes to grasp the issues.
Matt:
Now, I said nothing about different views being equal. I said we have to
choose which one's better. Its obvious you've chosen. It should be pretty
obvious that I've chosen. We're both (supposedly) still listening to the
conversation, though, to see if there's something we've missed that might
change our minds. No, what I disagreed with was your use of the word
"accurate." Saying that Glenn's scientism isn't accurate is saying that
you've seen the Truth and can compare your answer to the Truth and you've
found that Glenn's isn't as accurate in corresponding the the Truth as
yours. But correspodence doesn't make any sense unless you have a God's
eye view, unless you've somehow found the way to penetrate to the Truth.
If you had said that Glenn's scientism isn't "true," that would've made
more sense to me because, from your point of view, it isn't. But I was
cautioning against the word "accurate" because it makes you seem like a
prophet who's been handed the Truth on 3 stone tablets from a mountain, and
you can then compare what people say to the tablets.
DMB said:
You wanted him to make a downward movement of science? I smell another pet
theory that only confuses and distorts things, but I'll bite. What the heck
does that mean?
Matt:
Like I said before, rather than moving everything UP to the level of
science (by stretching out what science means), you move science DOWN to
the level of everything else. You deflate its cultural ego by telling them
that they haven't found the Real Way Towards Truth. That they are just
good at figuring out what to do with rocks, but with texts they should
leave it to Comp Lit professors.
Matt
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