Re: MD MOQ and The Problem Of Evil

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Aug 19 2004 - 20:22:15 BST

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    Chris

    not all this stuff you quote was me.
    I take your points, and glad to see
    someone else into the association
    of DQ with possiblilities. Where
    I say DQ contains all possibilities
    I understand that these can only
    be realised via SQ. But when Shakespeare
    decides to go for ...'to be or not to be'
    instead of 'to be or to be not' he has
    been using the available DQ to him
    I did not say DQ contained all possibles
    at time=0.

    DM
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Chris Phoenix" <cphoenix@CRNano.org>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:49 PM
    Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Problem Of Evil

    >
    >
    > David Morey wrote:
    >
    > > (P1) QUALITY is Moral Perfection
    > > (P2) QUALITY contains DQ and SQ
    > > (P3) SQ attempts to dominate DQ
    >
    > Society, especially Western society, attempts to dominate DQ. Aside
    > from that, I'm not sure DQ is dominated so much as channeled.
    >
    > > (P4) Such attempts are immoral
    > >
    > > DQ contains all possibilities
    >
    > SQ creates foundations for the DQ possibilities. Quarks and proteins
    > can't take much credit for Beethoven. Maxwell's equations can take even
    > less credit. SQ is what creates the subtle interactions that lead to
    > new spaces of possibility. To say that DQ contains the possibility that
    > our biosphere breathes chlorine instead of oxygen isn't much better than
    > saying that DQ contains the possibility of pigs flying to 10,000 feet.
    >
    > > SQ is a finite subset of DQ
    >
    > SQ fills (some unknowable fraction of) the space/potential created by
    > DQ. Neither is a subset of the other.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    > > Value determines the subset
    > > DQ finds that sticking to its values
    > > that there is a price to pay: conflict & contradiction.
    > > The only hope for DQ is to find its way round these problems.
    > >
    > > DM
    > >
    >
    > --
    > Chris Phoenix cphoenix@CRNano.org
    > Director of Research
    > Center for Responsible Nanotechnology http://CRNano.org
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