From: Chuck Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Fri Aug 27 2004 - 17:50:40 BST
Good morning,
MarshaV wrote: But I wonder if it's a good idea to dissect the process of
art…I have been discovering lately that the moment I state something is, I
quickly discover it's opposite to be true too.
Joe wrote: IMO everything can be interpreted as a vibration! In music there
is a law of sound vibrations called the octave. Just intonation embodies the
octave as a series of relationships. One of my fellow choristers tells me I
have a good time singing. I love the melodies of religious music. From chant
to modern it is a wonderfully full table of tunes!
MarshV: What is your music about?
Chuck: I realized after a lot of theory and practice that through music I am
able to tune into something I brushed up against before via sports or
writing.
I agree, Joe. Everything can be interpreted as a vibration. And no where is
that more obvious than in music. The neck of my guitar is divided by
octaves subdivided by steps made up of vibrations are the stuff of musicians
medium. A choir or group that’s tight and and feeling the vibe can build a
sound tapestry and ride it into the zone or "sweet spot" with apologies to
other current threads going on and if they’re together they can take an
audience or congregation along for the ride into the zone. You can’t help
but light up and “have a good time singing.” Could that be what your fellow
choirist is getting at, Joe? Does it approach a religious experience? It
does for me.
Music (improvisational) is different than writing. I’m less willing to
dissect the process of playing music so I’m inclined to think it’s more
analogous to your painting, Marsha. Writing is more individual, though
music has it’s solitary moments, which are more about meditation and
writing. Music with my friends is celebratory.
I’m a better writer when I’m depressed. Music makes me happy.
Improvisational music is pure Dynamic Quality. Comment?
Best regards,
Chuck
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From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]
On Behalf Of Joseph Maurer
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:37 AM
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: Re: MD MOQ, Art & Creativity
On 26 August 2004 5:34 AM MarshaV writes to Chuck:
MarshaV: But I wonder if it's a good idea to dissect the process of art. If
I wish it to remain in the realm of the dynamic, shouldn't it just be
allowed to be what it is? It's this today, but it might be something totally
different tomorrow. I have been discovering lately that the moment I state
something is, I quickly discover it's opposite to be true too. Painting is
helping me accept, and maybe even embrace the contradictions. I'm afraid
talking about it will ruin it. On the other hand, sometimes I feel if I
don't talk about it, I'll burst.
What is your music about?
Hi MarshaV, Chuck and all,
I am sorry for intruding, but I find this a very interesting subject! As an
amateur singer I put myself, the audience, the song all into a mix. As I
sing alone in the bathroom the hard tiles reflect the sound. I practice
breathing, mouth shape, vowel, consonant, tone formation. After singing
hymns in a small church choir with piano at a funeral, the feedback is
different. The singing is influenced by the occasion and the audience. In
the community chorus at the local JC the formal structure requires more
rigorous rehearsal.
IMO everything can be interpreted as a vibration! In music there is a law of
sound vibrations called the octave. Just intonation embodies the octave as a
series of relationships. One of my fellow choristers tells me I have a good
time singing. I love the melodies of religious music. From chant to modern
it is a wonderfully full table of tunes!
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: MarshaV
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: MD MOQ, Art & Creativity
At 10:50 PM 8/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
I've never painted. Is there any 'editing'? Once the paint's on the
canvas, there's no subtraction, only addition, right? But there are
unfinished novels? If you're not feeling in touch with a piece, is there
any filing it away for weeks, months or years later when you may be in a
better place to finish, with a wider perspective perhaps? Or is it
one-at-a-time? Are painters nagged by partially unpainted canvas? Is it
possible to leave a piece unfinished indefinitely; to relegate half-baked
ideas to the never-baked pile of your own free will?
Hi Chuck,
I loved reading about your writing. It's all about the process. And maybe
the main process is editing. Editing the painting and editing the painter.
I paint in oils so there is lots of room for correcting. I could correct a
painting forever if I allowed myself. Sometimes a painting I think is
finished, I later discover isn't. Sometimes I think a painting is
unfinished, and it later proves to be complete.
But I wonder if it's a good idea to dissect the process of art. If I wish
it to remain in the realm of the dynamic, shouldn't it just be allowed to be
what it is? It's this today, but it might be something totally different
tomorrow. I have been discovering lately that the moment I state something
is, I quickly discover it's opposite to be true too. Painting is helping me
accept, and maybe even embrace the contradictions. I'm afraid talking about
it will ruin it. On the other hand, sometimes I feel if I don't talk about
it, I'll burst.
What is your music about?
MarshaV
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