From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Thu Sep 02 2004 - 16:00:34 BST
Wim,
I am not sure I understand why it is said
that Pirsig was inconsistent re equality.
It seems somehow equivocal what I've
so far heard.
thanks--mel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wim Nusselder" <wim.nusselder@antenna.nl>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: MD the quality of equality
> Dear Platt,
>
> You wrote 17 Aug 2004 11:20:32 -0400:
> 'If I understand you gentlemen correctly, you're saying that (according to
> the MOQ) equality is good within a society, that is, among the individuals
> who are members of a society. To put it another way, no individual in a
> given society ought to be considered better than another. In contrast,
> equality is not good between societies, i.e., it's only right and proper
> to consider that some societies are better than others.'
>
> A certain amount of equality is necessary to maintain social stability.
The
> whole of humanity is part of one society (even if people also belong to
> different sub-societies), so on a global scale a certain amount of
equality
> is also necessary.
> A certain amount of equivalence of societies and of members of societies
> should be recognized to maintain consistency of systems of ideas that deal
> with the rights and duties of societies and their members. E.g. a system
of
> ideas that contains the idea that everyone is born with equal, unalienable
> rights cannot allow too much difference in rights between those who belong
> and don't belong to a specific society.
>
> A certain amount of inequality and inequivalence is inevitable because of
> competition among societies and among systems of ideas and is necessary
for
> social resp. intellectual evolution.
>
> Both systems of ideas and societies can be judged as to how far they are
> advanced in intellectual resp. social evolution: by their stability,
> versatility and harmony with higher level patterns of value and openness
to
> DQ. Judging individuals is difficult, because the social and intellectual
> patterns of value they identify with (and can be identified with) shift.
>
> To the extent that my own ideas are clear and their consistency is not
> challenged, I don't really care whether (and if yes, why) Pirsig's ideas
are
> inconsistent regarding equality.
>
> With friendly greetings,
>
> Wim
>
>
>
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