Re: RE; MD the individual in the MOQ

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Sep 05 2004 - 14:34:29 BST

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    > And without the "social" there would only be an ongoing stream of DQ, and
    > no way to "latch" or orient or build static structures.

    No one argues that the social isn't necessary if for no other reason than
    it takes a society of your father and mother for you to be here. But when
    it comes to responding to DQ, only you, as an individual, are capable.
    Societies don't respond. Read again the story of the brujo.

    > And there would be no intellectual values without the social since the
    > social is what enables the intellectual.

    LIke I said, society is a given, like the air we breath.

    > So, the "intellectual" level should not be renamed the "individual", nor
    > should it be renamed the "collective", it should remain the "intellectual"
    > and exist as a dialectic of the two.

    No one suggests the intellectual level should be renamed the "collective."
    But the social level could be renamed the "collective level" and the
    intellectual the "individual level" to emphasize the difference and to
    show the dynamic and thus moral superiority of the individual over the
    collective.

    Platt
     

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