From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Jan 18 2003 - 14:13:53 GMT
Hi Joe, All:
> The Metaphysics Of Quality according to Persig is that Quality is divided
> into Dynamic and Static Quality. Quality is the only absolute. The theory
> of How I know Quality is through undefined, instinctive experience, like
> how a baby learns. How I know the pattern of static quality, or how dq
> becomes a pattern is unclear?
I think we know patterns of static quality by what we see around us in
everyday experience. DQ comes as a surprise. DQ becomes a new
pattern when it is perceived as better than a current static pattern and is
"latched" when it becomes obvious that the new pattern contributes to
evolution towards betterment.
> It is also unclear how the instinctive sense
> is configured?
I would guess the same way as the moral order is configured, i.e., by a
hierarchy of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual levels.
> Moral orders, instinctively sensed, add complexoty to an
> individual?
They are present at birth, but become more developed as growth occurs.
> Static quality preserves an experienced Dynamic movement?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Many Dynamic experiences come and
go with no static preservation at all.
> Are
> moral orders absolute?
In the MoQ the moral hierarchy is absolute. As Pirsig says, "They are
exhaustive . . . nothing is left out."
> "Impossible to evolve sentient from non-sentient forms." I agree, so what
> can be added?
A universal principle of betterment that drives evolution.
> Quality Is Value. I suggest There are Three absolutes: Quality, Existence,
> Purpose. There are three instincts, three brains to enable a movement from
> non-sentient to sentient.
I would put Existence and Purpose as subsets of Quality, but agree that
they are absolutes.
> Sentient: a being with a reflexive awareness of self. The self is
> contained in one absolute at a time. Non-sentient: a being with only
> positive, or negative awareness, or with positive and negative awareness,
> but no awareness from a third absolute.
Would suggest using "Self-awareness" instead of "Sentient." Otherwise,
I agree with your insight. Doing something is what all aware entities do.
Knowing you are doing something with a purpose in mind is the grabber
that sets us apart.
Platt
MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net
To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Sat Jan 18 2003 - 14:20:06 GMT